Too many backlinks? Too quickly?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by gtull1, Dec 15, 2007.

  1. F1RM

    F1RM Peon

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    #21
    Most likely, although more vatiations of your anchor text would be preferred. If the person you are purchasing links from only offers 3 then you should use more variations for the links you will be building from now on.

    Alan Johnson
     
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  2. gtull1

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    #22

    I was thinking the same thing. Use 3 for this blast, then 3 others for the next after a few weeks, etc.

    They do offer more, for a few bucks, but... maybe that would be a good idea.

    If you were I, you wouldn't be nervous about having 200 sites adding 3 backlinks each after your new site went live in just 3 weeks? I want you to say no, lol, but I guess the truth would be better.

    :O)
     
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  3. F1RM

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    #23
    Since we're not talking about thousands of links here, there is no need to worry. Personally, I'd pay that person a little extra to add more variations of the anchor text though.

    Alan Johnson
     
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  4. sweetfunny

    sweetfunny Banned

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    #24
    I really don't know why you are worried, i built 60,000 links on a 4 week old domain and it dominates the SERP's.

    200 blog links is nothing trust me, if it was going to kill your domain i would buy a $15 blog network post and kill every new competitor who opens up shop.
     
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    #25
    The best way in which i gauge the number of links my website gets is by looking at how much there are according to google's webmaster tool.

    Usually, in order to find out whether a site is accumulating links quickly or is raising flags to google - i compare it with a competitor site and find out the ratio of link accumulation with my own site to find out how exactly its varying.

    We need to bear in mind here that there is no generalised number to say that if you get more than x amount of links your gonna be penalized, its niche specific and we need to compare websites in our niche and another great way would be to analyze penalised websites to find out exactly why they were penalized.

    Hope that was some help,
     
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  6. gtull1

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    #26
    Thank you!

    :O)
     
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  7. gtull1

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    #27
    You built 60,000 links on a 4 week old site???????? Holy cow!!

    Google didn't take you off the index? How did you do that???

    If that is the case, couldn't you dominate any keyword you wanted in a short time? Google doesn't look at the speed in which you gain backlinks?

    Now I am really confused. lol Hope you don't mind me sending you a PM.

    :O)
     
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  8. gtull1

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    #28
    Very helpful. Thank you!

    I have found that google's list of backlinks under webmaster tool is VERY conservative.

    Looking at other sites link building speed is a great idea, but I'm not sure that it would help me here. My silly site is brand new. I would need to compare apples to apples. Since I started with none, I would need to compare other brand new sites. But I can not find brand new sites in my field to compare with, or I don't know how to. What I find are sites that have been around for years. For them, gaining 200 backlinks in a day is nothing as far as percentages goes, but for me it would be nuts.

    How can you find penalized websites?

    Thanks!!

    :O)
     
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  9. bobchrist

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    #29
    Also keep watch on which links get devalued overtime and try to get more links to sustain your position.
     
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    #30
    Good point. Honestly, getting links isn't that big of a deal. For a few bucks, I can get anchored keyword 1 way links on a thousand sites. My worry is with Google. As a new site, how many raises the flag to them? I would think that keyword variance, IP variance, and maybe (??) associated text could improve any allowable cushion, but I don't know.

    Then again, maybe I have no clue at all. lol

    Thanks for the help!

    :O)
     
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  11. stephenhacking

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    #31

    There is no tool to find that - But usually if you entered the site's domain name i.e www.domain.com onto google, if it aint ranking at number one position, it is prolly penalized 90%

    This isnt something which may be entirely true - but yeah you COULD possibly use this mode to find out if your site is penalized.
     
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    #32
    I have got to tell you since nobody else has... Google won't ban you from their index just for getting too many backlinks too fast. You need to break the rules. Spam a bunch of sites. Have only duplicate content. Only have paid posts on your site. Keyword stuffing. Thinks like that.

    Also from my understanding you can build 1,000 backlinks a day or more as long as it you keep it up. If in one month you get 30,000 backlinks and the next you only get 100 that will raise many red flags. You need to keep up the effort and gradually slow down so you don't look spamy.
     
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  13. gtull1

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    #33
    I understand where you are coming from. I have heard this angle from a few others as well. Very interesting.

    :O) and thanks!!
     
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    #34
    i think 100k or 200k or 50k backlinks in one day is too fast but i dont think 500 backlinks in one day is fast
     
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    #35
    What I think that google or any search engines work only on algorithms - they do not have resources to check anything manually. So if you think that their algorithms can catch anything like 1000 backlinks in a day, stay away from that practise. Personally I think it is ok to do 200 backlinks a day. But just be a little cautious and spread it to a few days....
     
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    #36
    agree, you can post lots of link, but do it over numbers of website.
     
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    #37

    Thanks! Just to make sure, you are saying this for a new site, right?

    :O)
     
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    #38

    Good point.

    Correct me if I am wrong, but algorithms can catch ANYTHING. I mean that they can catch anything that they are programmed to catch. So going by this thought process where I don't "cheat" because an algorithm is capable of catching me, that means that I could not do hardly anything.

    Makes any sense to you?

    :O)
     
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  19. MOG

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    #39
    Mate I can honestly say that you should have a problem there.... BUT....

    if I may be so bold as to make a suggestion, you should look for links that will send you natural traffic, not just linkjuice for PR purposes. That way even if you were ever to get google penalised then you would still have traffic.

    Lets face it everyone, traffic is the LIFEBLOOD of websites, lets not forget that in our "quest for backlinks" that everyone seems to take far far too seriously.

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    #40
    disagree - this would only be an issue if google were somehow miraculously to spider that particular 100,000 webpages that given day!!!



    example, my free hosting site on my sig link (www.hostedwith.us) I got about 80k backlinks last week for it.
    (disclaimer: the 80k I got were between over 10 forums, and about another 50+ RELEVANT sites).


    How many has google spidered???

    go and check it out.


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