So silly. You understand nothing. Faith is NOT a requirement. That's what makes it faith. As for really wanting to hear what we have to say your own words are the best reason for just laughing and having a beer with friends instead: One wonders how many hours you've already spent saying you don't want to hear with your fingers in your ears while the blah, blah, blah flows so effortlessly from you. You've made your mind up and by your own admission do not wish to hear anything else. What's the point?
I watched the video. It is about intelligent design and not specifically creationism as the biblical viewpoint. Evolutionary theory is a theory of a process, it has evolved a lot since Darwin and really does not even apply to the idea of intelligent design except for perhaps trying to discover what that design is and how it works which is of course what science is all about. People try to discuss whether evolution proves or disproves god and it really doesn't do either. It doesn't even try. If someone can prove intelligent design, as in locate the intelligence then it would be valuable to be taught in school. My only particular evidence that there is an intelligent architect to the universe is math. It is everywhere in all things and so far it has never been wrong where it has been correctly applied. You can tell exactly how a sunflower or a snail shell will grow if it continues with math. Math is pretty much the basis of all other science too. Pythagoras is my hero basically. Philosophically I have to ask though is the design there because it truly or is or is it something we constantly impose on the universe to understand it, and if its the former there must be a "God" and if its the latter than we are delusional.
I don't think you understood what i meant. The point i was making is that someone who believes in biblical creation isn't capable of accepting evolution. it contradicts their faith entirely and as such their faith doesn't allow them to accept it, Regardless of the mountain of evidence. But we digress... Any evidence for creation yet? I very much want to hear something else. Like i said, I want to hear what he himself thinks in his own words and I want to hear his evidence for intelligent design in his own words.
But that's just the thing STOX, I believe in BOTH. I have been trying to tell you this all along. They are not mutually exclusive!!!
So you believe that god created man fully formed from dust and you believe that we evolved from apes? How is that possible?
Well, for you to believe that life formed here on earth of itself you believe it came from the "dust" of the earth too. "We have seen that nova and supernova are major ways in which the new, heavy nuclei made in red giant stars are sent out into the galaxy, ready to be incorporated into new stars and planets. If this re-cycling did not happen, planets and life could never have begun." -History of the Universe Cosmic Dust - Microscopic grains of matter that occur in space. They play an important role in the origin of planetary systems (see planetary systems, formation) and possibly even that of life itself. -Encyclopedia of Science Where we differ is where this dust came from. And you have no answer whatsoever far as I can tell. I have a book from whence the same conclusion you arrive at, that man was formed from dust, answers to my satisfaction where that dust came from. Again, science and faith are one in this as far as I am concerned. Your science says life came from dust, and my Book says that man came from dust. Amazing isn't it that after all the hubub, they both say the same thing? Now that we are on speaking terms, go ahead ask me something else, as I will you, and let's see if we can not at least agree to disagree with civilitity and respect.
If you don't believe humans were created fully formed then you don't believe in biblical creation. what you believe in is some kind of mangled interpretation of biblical creation in an attempt to rationalize a belief in two contradicting ideas at the same time. By the way, neither myself or evolution says life arose from dust. In fact, Evolution doesn't touch the origin of life at all, It only deals with the origin of the species.
I do think you have an hour to spare but i think you have a fear that you just might be incorrect and thats ok also cause you have now because of ur fear taken the first step in believing in god Stox. GOD BLESS YOU I knew there was a believer in you. Group hug for stox. HEy stox can u say a prayer for me now that you have crossed over. Just as another dp'er here rebecca was a darwinian evolutionist and crossed over so will you. Its ok to fear god, that is the first step in loving him . Now if i were you i would be afraid to watch it also Sorry again stock, again your misinformed about the bible. There are certain parts of teh bible that were written literally and certain parts that were written figurately. Its not because you say that the whole bible is to be taken literally that this is the fact. If you would like to debate bible meaning and bible history i would be glad to do that too. You know very little about teh bible and even less about its history, but like i said it looks like you made the crossover. GOD BLESS YOU!!!!
So you still don't understand your own argument well enough to put it in to writing? that's ok, A limited ability to think fits your religion a lot better than it would fit any attempt you may have at science. And in what section does the bible tell you what parts you are supposed to take literally? Or do you just kinda make it up as you go along based on what you already believe and what you can find to support it? Considering this god of yours is supposed to be omnipotent he sure does come accross as being an incompetent imbecile.
Again, you would LIKE to believe that my beliefs are as you say. They are not. The Bible says God formed man from dust. Science says life was created from dust. Can we agree to this so far? Becuase this is what is written, and if you cannot agree with what is written then you're simply immaturely contentiuos and thanks, but no thanks. I'll just move on.
Do we need a whole complete debate again on the bible? I have about hundred posts on this. looooooooooool. Embecile is someone who comments on things without even fully reading and researching them.
Science doesn't say that. Like i already explained. I also explained how evolution doesnt address the issue of the origin of life. But then biblical creation also says god made adam, Then he made all the animals and then made eve. We know this to be blatantly untrue from the fossil records. What mangled interpretation do you use to square this enormous inconsistency between biblical creation (which you claim to believe is true) and evolution (which you also claim to be true, At the same time). Is that what an "embecile" is? Fascinating. I think you are out of your depth here.
Don't be silly! There is no intelligent design, look at me: I'm the most twisted bastard alive, if there would be intelligent design, this would make it dumb design. LOLZ
Please give me Chapter and Verse of the Bible which you say I have "mangled." Also, please note , those references I quoted, ie: Are from science publications, not the Bible. My thrust is that you may see the similarities the two reveal. But, please, show me which Biblical writings you believe I mangled, Chapter and Verse. Thanks
I said your interpretation of it is mangled. If you believe biblical creation to be true- ie god made adam, Then made plants and animals, Then made eve - you can't also believe in evolution which started with plants, then animals and then right at the very end humans. Even if we look at the absolute basics of creation, The time-line, it doesn't fit in with what we know from evolution. And as such if you don't believe the time line to accurate, You can't believe creation to be factual. All you are doing is trying to make what you want to be true (the bible) fit in with what you KNOW to be true (evolution), and as a result we have you chopping your "belief" to pieces in a vain attempt to make it fit. You need to sit down and pick one, Because you can't have both.