A prediction: Huckabee is the new Bush (to the media and dems)

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by d16man, Dec 13, 2007.

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    I know others have already said it, but I am jumping on board with it...Huckabee is the new Bush to the media and the dems...they see him as the man to beat in the next election. So therefore let the smear campaigns begin....anyone else think the media is already biased towards him?
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    lol
    The dems are hoping Huck is who they run against.

    It is the repubs attacking Huck, not the dems BTW.

    It is not biased showing facts of his record..
     
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  3. AGS

    AGS Notable Member

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    There is no doubt at all that Huckabee is a lunatic but so far not seen too much on him in terms of Media Smear Campaigns.

    I think that the media will be too busy trying to get Americas fake mayor Giuliani back into the frame as he's being rumbled for the complete scumbag that he is.
     
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  4. guru-seo

    guru-seo Peon

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    Dems will beat any of the republican candidates EXCEPT of course Ron Paul. He is the only candidate on the Republican side that can beat democrats.
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    yea he kinda is like Bush :p
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    Huckabee is a lot like Bush. And since I have been accused of BDS (perhaps rightly so), I won't bother to go into details.

    But the reality is, the front runner always has a target painted on his back.

    I mean, Hillary Clinton is the Democratic front runner, and most Americans cannot imagine a more loathsome person in politics.

    It almost makes you wonder where the support is coming from. In Huckabee's case, I know where it is coming from, the question is, can he raise enough money, and get on enough ballots to matter if he wins in Iowa?

    It's not easy trying to set up a national campaign infrastructure in 40 days.
     
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  7. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    So far, I've heard:

    1) Huckabee is a lot like Bush

    2) Huckabee is like a liberal

    3) Huckabee has the same platform RP

    All from the same person. Fundraising is going well. Just slightly ahead of projection for Dec. 15th.

    guru, that's an awfully endearing statement! I can't help but chuckle a little. Prior to alex jones telling his sheep to vote for RP, you were supporting John Edwards. I saw a poll last week, taken in Arkansas (a place where people know Huckabee and Clinton). It showed a lineup of every candidate against Clinton. Take a guess at the ONLY republican candidate the poll indicated could beat Clinton? It was most assuredly not RP.
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    I read that about Huckabee in Arkansas as well GTech. Good for him.

    I'm confused about your point #3. Huckabee definitely doesn't have the same platform as RP.
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    who still even supports bush???

    even back when i was a neocon i didn't support him.
     
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  10. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    It was a comment made in the last week. Platform wasn't the actual word, just paraphrasing here. Something along the lines that they have the same positions.

    His term is pretty much over. I've supported him. I have no problem with that. Unlike some, I don't sell out my beliefs over popularity contests. ;)
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    lol wow i used to atleast think you were a pretty smart neocon..

    how does Bush represent ANY republican/conservative values? do you think his policy of starting a war and fighting it sh!ttily is a good plan? I was hoping you would atleast realize the way he is fighting it is a disgrace. If i were an interventionist I would be using superior fire power and not meddle with their politics.

    we're doing the exact opposite. we're sending Marines into harms way, making them go door to door and flush out the enemy then we prosecute them FOR DOING THEIR JOB!! And no GTech you can't use the patriotic stance that "i'm against the troops" this time. I'm arguing in favor of the rights of the Marines at camp pendleton who did the job their slimeball hunchbag government sends them off to war to do. Guess who didn't stand up for those Marines Gtech? guess who?


    yours truly GWB!!

    the same guy who sent'em off to do that specific job!




    if you want to learn anything useful about war, I suggest you study George Patton. read what he said and what he did. he was a genius of war. george bush and donald rumsfailed are not. you say you're all about reagan? you contradict yourself by supporting a war where we are combining politics in the Middle East, THE VERY THING REAGAN SAID NOT TO DO.
     
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  12. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Something like that might work on those who stick their finger in the air to see which way the political winds are blowing, before casting their opinions.

    I'm not like that, though. What you think of me, has no bearing on my beliefs, what-so-ever. A good man will always stand behind his beliefs, even when they are not the most "popular."

    I don't have the time, nor am I interested in discussing pacifism and weak foreign policy. I do thank you for the post, as it confirms what I previously said.
     
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    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    good, I'm glad you're capable of taking the mental beatings i give you without flip flopping :D
     
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  14. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    lol....please stop...this is getting to funny...can we put some money on a bet based around this statement? Please, I really want to retire early...:D
     
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    omgitsfletch Well-Known Member

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    I see a lot of parallels between Bush and Huckabee, to a point. Some differences I see are firstly that Huckabee is much more religiously fanatical than Bush, and has much more liberal tendencies, as seen in the past for his support of illegal immigrant education, begging for any new taxes to state congress, etc. The people who he draws his base from are the same voters that got Bush into office in '00/'04, the evangelicals spread throughout flyover country. Hopefully some of the sane Republican voters who want fiscal conservatism without a one religion America realize that, and the growing Ron Paul polls seem to be an indicator of that.
     
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  16. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    fletch, couple of points.

    Huckabee's position on illegal immigration is a role model for other candidates. There is what others try to "slander" him with, then there are the facts. The key thing that seems to be leading some distractors to be dishonest about his position, is that he doesn't want to punish children for parent's mistakes. To me, that is compassion at it's finest. His primary concern is addressing this long unaddressed issue and has a plan in place to do so. He's not soft on illegal immigration in the least bit. He's tough on doing what is right.

    Begging for new taxes. This is an excellent example of the dishonest of Club for Greed and how gullible some can be on this subject. What the Club For Greed chooses to show in their TV attack ad, is Huckabee working together with democrats and republicans over a mandate handed down by the Arkansas Supreme Court. The Supreme Court mandated that taxes had to be raised in order to get the state in budget. So what you see in the video, is Huckabee, by law, complying with that mandate and working together with others on addressing the issue.

    As far as the comparison to Bush, I don't see it. I spend time on the Hucks Army forum, and I personally feel so out of place there, it's spooky sometimes. My take is, these are NOT Bush supporters and certainly not neocons. Sure, there are few there, but I see a very kind and compassionate audience there.

    RP is not gaining in any polls I've seen. I've also seen reference from a lot of RP supporters who claim to be former Bush supporters. I don't see that as a good or a bad thing. What I see the most of though, is more "progressive" liberals jumping ship to the republican party to vote for a libertarian. I'll be glad when the election is over, personally. I'm not comfortable with the kooks and cranks infiltrating the republican party. On any given day, you can see (even right here on this forum) the same people that are supposedly now "conservative republicans" flaunt stories from Huffpo, prison planet, daily kos, thingprogress, moveon, etc. I always get a chuckle out of those trying to redefine themselves for the sake of justifying their support for RP, but when they keep on posting as if the party they are joining are the enemy, and the progressive liberal movement are still the source for good, I can't help but smile.

    I thought it was particularly interesting that RP is paying others to go slander Huckabee. Apparently RP isn't man enough to do it himself.
     
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    The biggest fear that you have GTech is that there is a honest, non pandering, anti BS war candidate in the mix and it is starting to frighten the life out of you.

    I still can't see Paul getting the call because the controlled mainstream media are virtually shunning him but there is no doubt at all that he has got a lot of our DP PC RAMBO's worried. :D
     
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  18. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    5% is not worrying to me, AGS. Thank you for the alex jones tin foil explanation though. I'm always thankful when RP supporters say things like this. It sort of goes along with my prediction that RP supporters will be their own demise. I can't think of anyone more helpful to that cause, than you :)
     
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    GTech, Paul is up to 11% in South Carolina. That's a far cry from 2% a couple months ago.

    And we're not even counting the Republican "infiltrators". ;)

    Of course, I know someone on this forum who voted Democrat in the 90s and now claims to be the Guardia Camino of the GOP. (you). :D
     
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    LOL! Is he flip flopping? :D :D
     
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