Biden's warns Bush: Bomb Iran and be impeached

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  1. Lemon116

    Lemon116 Active Member

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    #181
    Israel uses its weapons against terrorist groups only.

    Sounds lame?

    Sorry, but its life :)
     
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  2. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #182
    Yes, please explain that.. That is exactly what I have been asking..

    So you are saying that terrorists are underpriviledged and are just using whatever resources are available to them to promote death and destruction.. No, I really do not understand your logic on this one..




    Sorry, I forgot to paste my source.. Yep, here are the real numbers:

    http://www.usaid.gov/wbg/

    Since 1993, Palestinians have received more than $1.7 billion in U.S. economic assistance via USAID projects - more than from any other donor country.
     
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  4. Lemon116

    Lemon116 Active Member

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    #184
    Yes, my opinion its ok, since an arab doesnt shoot an arab, the best way to protect the IDF troops it is :D
     
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    #185
    I never said that, don't put words into peoples mouths, you're better than that ;)

    It's simple, they do not have tanks, they do not have airplanes, they do not have nukes. They are using the weapons they have available to them.

    That is simple facts...

    Just as our minuteman used what was available to them during our revolutionary war. Key difference in my eyes our minuteman were good, in this case I do not side with those we consider 'terrorists'
     
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    #186
    You continue to spread lies and distort the TRUTH!!! Do you see how skewed your math is? SINCE 1993!!!! I gave you a figure thats on a per year basis, do you want me to do the math for you and add the numbers of aid to Israel SINCE 1993???? You are something else. And I KNOW you know you are wrong and a racist!!!
     
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    #187
    Wow, this is the true face of zionism, arab kids make good shields
     
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    #188
    :rolleyes:
    Yeah because when you don't have airplanes, don't have tanks, etc, etc it's so easy to attack the military directly.

    Please tell me people trully are not this stupid...
     
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    #189
    You are reading Mia's post incorrectly..
    The US is the biggest single donor to Palestine, not that we gave more to them than anyone else.
     
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    #190
    Life is sometimes a nonsense but if it depends on who dies and who lives;
    Myself or ahmad who lives in "Hizme" the arab villiage next to my house,
    I preffer to live.

    And F ahmad :) I dont know where you live, snorida or not US or not but you dont live in this hell so stop talking bushllit.
     
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    #191
    Thats what makes this whole process so mind blowing, they tell you lies in your face and tell you its the truth. A certain administration comes to mind!
     
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    #192
    With all due respect, I am not trying to put words in your mouth.. You just said it again...

    I'm just telling you, that is what I am getting out of what you are saying.... So if terrorists had tanks, jets, and nukes, it would be ok to use them? Seriously, I do not know what you are trying to say here..

    I don't believe using minutemen as an example is really a fair analogy. We ere trying to escape British rule and taxes, not premtively attack innocent civilians for religious reasons, or because we just did not like them.
     
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    #193
    His post hides the real amount of money donated to both sides to make it sound as if Palestinians are getting the preferred treatment. I am giving you the whole picture not suppressing the TRUE amount to make it sounds like its favorable to the Palestinians when we both know that misrepresents the real numbers.
     
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    #194
    I think ahmed because you are an immigrant and your racist concocted state has no right to exist....... except in the ecyclopedia's and history books (maybe). :)
     
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    #195
    I never said they were underprivledged.. Using such a term would be siding with them, which I most certainly am not.
    Nope, I never said that either. It's simple, people use the way they attack as a reason against them. This is a flawed logic as they do not have planes, tanks, etc to use. If you want to beat them, you need to do it with reality, facts, logic. Not simply bashing them at every corner, especially with something such as "israel is good because they don't use suicide bombs" of course they don't, they do not need to.

    In order to beat your enemy, you need to factually understand them. I do not see why so many are so scared of that. Misunderstand your enemy and you're sure to lose.


    It's a perfect example. It doesn't matter their reason for fighting, they used what they had available to them. Yet again you are not understanding the enemy, there is more going on than 'religious' reasons, and or 'because they do not like them'
     
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    #196
    "How dare you say we are a concocted nation!!!"

    "Look, we are the same nation, i don't care if we emigrated from different continents just a few years ago"

    [​IMG]
     
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    That is fine ;) Lets have both of them out there then..
     
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    #198
    I'm glad you see the point I was trying to make. Mia's posts are very very one sided thats why I try to counter his claims with facts of the other side. If he wants to present numbers and be fair he should present ALL of the numbers.
     
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    GRIM, this is the lunacy that your statements are defending.. Not the Palestinian people.

    Ok, it just came off that way...

    How on earth can you smash an enemy that hides behind civilians? I think that is the larger point and why many of the terrorist supporters on DP tend to find fault with Israel...

    I don't live there, I'm not a Jew, however looking at a map of Israel and every other nation in the region, it is hard to see where Israel is the aggressor here. That is the point I am getting at, and what I am defending. I am not saying, "Israel is good", nor do I seek to justify they methods. I just recognize and respect the fact that, given their situation, i would appear to be the only end to a justify a mean.

    There is nothing to understand about Islamic Fundamentalism, or any other cult worshiping terrorist group, be they from any misguided, warped off shoot of any religion... You cannot reason with these people. They are hell bent on killing all of us, including you and me. There is nothing to understand. You're not going to change their minds, or their ways by simply understanding them. We tried that for years here in the US, meanwhile two towers fell as a result.


    Ok, so what are the other reasons that justify killing Jews?
     
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    #200
    I dont think people with duplicate accounts can be given any credibility. ;)
     
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