Biden's warns Bush: Bomb Iran and be impeached

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  1. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #141
    As posted by grab my heart:
    Admitting to be "all for" murdering me and people who have similar thoughts on certain subjects like mine.
     
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  2. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #142
    He does not try to hide his hate...
     
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  3. grab my heat

    grab my heat Banned

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    #143
    I haven't seen DevilsHellz say one positive thing, ever. All he wants is to wipe out all Muslims.
     
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    #144
    So you president even don't know how to read:
    http://edition.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/04/iran.nuclear/index.html

    I allways read here how Iran is great danger and evil country so would like to hear why is that? Care to elaborate?
    Here few question-tasks for you and everyone else who hates Iran so much:
    1. in Iran-Iraq US supported Sadam and Iraq. Can you please describe Iran and Iraq at that time and compare them.
    2. Can you please make a list of countries Iran invaded since their revolution and make a list that US invaded during that time so we can compare them.
    3. Can you please make a list of Iranian war crimes and a list of US war crimes so we can compare them.

    He's politician and that's explains it all. :)

    That goes both way: no matter what Bush or the US does you believe you are allways right...
     
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    guerilla Notable Member

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    #145
    I thought you were for pre-emptive war? I'm still waiting for an answer on how many people should die pre-emptively so you can be safe. Please remember that we are also talking about civilians, because there has yet to have been a war that did not incur significant civilian casualties.

    10 to die for your safety? 20? 100?
     
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    iggysick Guest

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    #146
    Yeah but when he wants to kill everyone on opposite side it's ok but when opposite side wants to kill him...oh! the horror! ;)
     
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  7. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #147
    Don't put words into my mouth. It's enough that you showed us all how you, as a peaceful muslim, would approve of mass murder, but please refrain from lying.
    And look harder.

    Innocent people should not die.
    I don't want any innocent to die for my safety.
    But, unfortunately, we all know the costs of war.
    It all comes down to innocent civilians killed here, or innocent civilians killed there - you know what i would prefer.
    If i lived in a happy pink world, where everything could of been settled by peace talks, life would be much easier. Sadly, it ain't gonna happen.
     
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    AGS Notable Member

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    #148
    Hopefully neither if you had half a brain.
     
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  9. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #149
    So what you are saying is, you know it is wrong, but que sera sera.

    Nice morals and convictions you have.
     
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  10. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #150
    Are you speaking in the first person again? :eek:

    I believe he is saying that collateral damage is unfortunate, but can and will happen when peaceful people like Jews defend themselves against terrorist cults.
     
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    grab my heat Banned

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    #151
    What's stopping the IDF from being labelled a terrorist cult? Is terrorist a term that can only be applied to Muslims? I'm confused, because as far as I know, the IDF has killed more civillians than Hamas and Hizbullah together.
     
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  12. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #152
    That one is simple. As many as need be. The opposite of that, is to curl up into a ball and wait to be attacked, because striking at a threat first is somehow worse than being attacked first. I can't think of anything more irresponsible to our national security.

    I've used the example before. I liken it to the same thing. You are out with your family. A young angry white male with low IQ comes up waiving a gun and threatens to kill you and your family. Are you going to curl up into a ball? Or are you going to do something about it?

    Myself? I'll gladly go out protecting my family. Since I have a concealed weapons permit and can/do carry, the first thing I'd be doing is casually preparing to draw and kill. Pre-emptively. I'm not going to wait for some punk to shoot me, or my family first.

    Survival of the fittest. If people don't like that, they ought to be taking issues with terrorist regimes like Iran who repeatedly threaten others with death.
     
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    #153
    I think you are just paranoid. Iran can't even reach America with it's greatest jet fighters, so I don't know why you are so worried. I think you are lying, you're not concerned for your national security, but rather you just want to kill Muslims.
     
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    #154
    The problem though is that Iraq had no gun to wave at us, they had no WMD.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #155
    Nor did they have a way of hitting us, nor were they waving even a fake gun at us..
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #156
    Hez-Bully-Ah are not Muslims. They are a terrorist cult.
     
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    #157
    No WMD and no ties to 9/11.

    So basically, a lot of innocent people have died due to bad intel and a pre-emptive strike.

    Pre-emptive or aggressive war is illegal and a war crime. It was one of the first crimes tried at Nuremberg.

    Christians have long held a "Just War" theory introduced by Augustine. There is a moral way to go about self-defense under the Constitution. Declare war, fight it, win it, and come home.

    4 years later, after no WMDs, we're still in Iraq. Now we're threatening nuclear first strikes against a country that doesn't even have an active nuclear weapons program.

    Meanwhile, almost 100 suitcase nukes have disappeared since the time the Soviet Union collapsed...
     
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    #158
    You might not want to speak for him.

    Collateral damage is "unfortunate". That's a cold and dismissive way to talk about murder.

    I suppose some of the people killed on 9/11 were collateral damage. Do you also think that was "unfortunate"?
     
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  19. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #159
    No comment..

    Say something intelligent and I will gladly engage you in debate. Right now you are either intentionally acting stupid, or just......are.
     
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    #160
    Why no comment? Based on your rationale, isn't it reasonable to assume that Al Queda viewed some of the people killed on 9/11 as "unfortunate collateral damage"?

    You know, like they really weren't trying to kill those people (like the Iraqi civilians who die in bombing attacks), but we should all just accept that as the cost of war and defense right?

    Btw, the first person to start personal attacks, has usually lost the argument. Feel free to wave the white flag of surrender.
     
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