Buy, Sell, & Trade... Money Walking Out The Door

I used to be able to pull an extra $250 a week from DP with ease. I have given up because that number has decreased dramatically. I can pull out an amazing product for $20 and sell nothing (of course I do have 80,000 cheapos (yes, I just called you a cheapo, you know who you are) asking me for a free review). 99 out of 100 threads are worthless to making money online. Crap is filling that place like fire to a haystack.

Some examples:
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=588522 - someone illegally selling 250k email addresses that do not exist anymore. Even if they did exist it would be illegal to mail out to them. 1 more thing, they cost a dollar. LMBO hard.

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/forumdisplay.php?f=105 - 9 out of the first 10 current threads are social networking. Not even the freebies section is decently clean???

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=587170 - enough said, just look at the thread. There are plenty more like those.

I won't mention any of these... but many of the threads are for $1 offers that do nothing but clutter up the boards, waste peoples time, and bring the DP market far down.

I can't post an offer without someone either shutting me down because they either hate that I could possibly make some money or they just feel like tearing someone up. I cannot stand those free review guys, they are just about deservant of an infraction.

All of these people selling MRR crap is not helping but hurting the market. I am all for selling MRR if it is worthwhile to people.

If what you are selling doesn't truly help people, it's hurting them and us sellers. Next time you post an offer ask yourself if that offer will be an asset to someone or a liability. Is it going to help someone or just fill your pocket with a few quick bucks and leave some greedy dude disappointed and out of luck.

Would you buy what you sell on here?

Without the quality of what we sell rising we will never go anywhere but down on this forum. If prices were up and people sold quality material I bet I could pull in $10k a month here if I played my cards right.

Group effort is the only way to increase quality and to increase the money we make here.

Go ahead and shoot me down. I don't care.

I have stated my opinion and I am done with my rant. I might have got carried away a little..... but not too much. I think everyone deserves too rant a little bit every now and then.

Now, for the mods and Shawn out there. You guys do a fantastic job of cleaning up those forums. I would hate to see what it would look like without you guys. This is not a complaint to you guys but a post to my fellow members. I just felt that it was proper to put it here. I think something needs to happen and that something will. I just don't know what yet. I have ideas... but I don't feel it necessary to post them for someone else's site.

With Integrity,
Ty Maier

“What we really want to do is what we are really meant to do. When we do what we are meant to do, money comes to us, doors open for us, we feel useful, and the work we do feels like play to us.”

- Julia Cameron

"The businessman with the most quality in his business has the most money."

- Phil Stewart

 

I agree entirely with everything you said.
Those free review bludgers are beginning to piss me off too - nobody here should think they're entitled to anything for nothing. I have never asked for a free review - I never would because I'd feel positively embarrassed at the idea of sponging from someone.

 

Giving free reviews to the right people makes your sales boost up!

But I agree with everything you say... Thumbs up

 

I believe that we should have a new sticky thread in the B/S/T section regarding asking for review copies. That anyone who requests one will receive an infraction unless the buyer states in his post that he is giving out review copies.

 

I agree 100% with your post. I have been asking for while why this is allowed to happen.

I always laugh at the review seekers because it is always the same ones. They are often the same ones who pad their posts by asking for information on things they have no intention of buying.

 

Yep. They try to get their 20 posts in the B/S/T the wrong way.

 

If people are asking for something for free (review copy/trial) when no such offer was made by the person starting the thread please report the post. Those types of posts fall into the "running up post count/post has no value" or "inappropriate post" category and they will receive an infraction.

Thanks.

 

Awesome - cause yea , there are like 8000000 people asking for stuff for free in those threads.

 

I agree...the quality of the BST is low here.

 

8000000 infractions it will be

 

Excellent post. I don't even try to make decent money on DP anymore. I either post freebies (real ones that are an actual service) or I do reviews on my blog for 2 bucks...that are worth a lot more. I'm sad to say that I contribute in that way to the drop in the market here at DP. I would really like to see value added back into the services we provide. Thanks for stating it so eloquently and with integrity.

 

You can always refuse but as mentioned offering a free or large discounted copy to a senior member could result in lots of sales if your product is as good as you say it is.

for waxingpoetic, I don't know why you would ever sell a properly written post on a decent blog for $2, that seems really low.

 

A great way of boosting sales instead of getting a respected member to review your product is to partner with a respected member.

 

I'm also fed up with those free review begger, they even asked for 3$ product for free!?!? come on!

 

I agree, there is a lot of MRR crap coming on DP lately, mostly from eBay and such.

But I do post in some threads asking if there is a review copy available, and why not? If it's a new product to DP - no one is going to buy it without someone seeing it first - and I sure as heck am not going to shell out even $1 to something there's no review on.

99% of the time i'll get pm'd with a download link to the product. I give honest reviews and my personal opinion on the product. It helps the threads a lot - I get 5-10 people per day PM/IM/emailing me asking me about a product that iv reviewed here on DP.

Reviews are good if given to the right person

 

Have to agree that from what I've seen not too many people seem to subscribe to the philosophy of value for value. I see many ads posted daily by people looking to buy entire websites for $5 bucks when the domain name alone cost the builder more than that. And people offering to pay for work at what amounts to a rate of $1.00 per hour knowing they would never work for $1.00 per hour even if all they had to do was keep clicking a mouse button. Unfortunately, there's always going to be a good few who will take the $5 bucks or do the work for a dollar. That's the real problem here I think. Because you're not going to pay $500 for something knowing you can get it elsewhere for five bucks.

 

I agree with you.

 

You raise the correct argument I feel here. The value of work is being somewhat cheapened here on DP thanks to the people who are happy working for $5 a day.

Now you and I know that it just isnt possible to do that (in most countries) so we dont try to, but the problem then is that someone, somewhere will accept that level of payment.

In knock on effect that then has the effect of reducing overall service pricing structure accross the board. Its just a side effect of the "globalisation" of DP. The same thing has happened in each major western economy in the last 40 years after the avaliability of cheaply imported goods, which destroy the market value of the nationally produced competitive goods.

What is an interesting thing to study is that the psuedo-economy here on DP has already developed so quickly we have got to the stage where a huge portion of the people that would offer services have been priced out of the market already - its just the same as british coal/steel/heavy manufacturing in the 80's...

please dont take my comment the wrong way here, im not in any way against globalisation of services, infact Im all for it and see more opportunity in this new era than has ever existed, Im just commenting that most countries are priced out of the market for PROVIDING services TO DP... on the other hand there is still plenty to be profited from in BUYING dp services to resell locally




just my 2 cents.
(or 1 1/4cents after globalisation pricing structure re-indexing)

 

truly said. DP is loosing on B/S/T section where only free review seekers are there and once free reviews gets over and the reviewers posts their "Valuable Comments" no one hardly buys them. it should not be allowed strictly and infracted too.

 

That is what i dont like. Most of the people are bringing the market down. Instead of offering services at the market rate they offer it for dirt cheap prices and the market crashes.

The rates are going down significantly.