Will Smith Lost his entire Fortune to the IRS at 19.

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by tesla, Dec 4, 2007.

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    When you're broke and poor, the IRS could care less about you, but as soon as you're rich and famous, you're on their radar. This is why I've always wanted wealth without fame.

    You guys can watch Smith's story on Yahoo right now, I would link to the YouTube video if someone had already added it there(they haven't as of this writing).

    Will Smith is just one more example of a man, who, after working his ass off to make money, has to turn around and give away everything he makes to the corrupt IRS, just so the IRS can take his money and use it to pay the "interest" on the national debt, by the way, which will never be paid off.

    The IRS is a mafia, they use extortion to rob you of your hard earned wealth. As if it isn't enough that we have the invisible tax known as inflation to rob us of our hard earned wealth, we have to pay the government even more money.

    F*ck the IRS. :mad:

    Smith said he had to pay like 70% of his money to the government. While his show the Fresh Prince of Bel Air had high ratings, he was broke. I can't believe this.

    This is another reason why I want to vote for Ron Paul. He is the ONLY candidate that proposes getting rid of the Mafia known as the IRS. Not a single candidate other than Paul wants to get rid of this institution, and I don't know about the rest of you in this forum, but I get tired of paying a huge percentage of my income to an agency that will only use it to pay the interest on the national debt, and if I get really wealthy like Smith, they will come and take a huge portion of everything I've made.
     
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    tesla Notable Member

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    By the way, I already predict that some of you in this forum(those who grovel and bow down like slaves to the almighty government), will run your mouths about how Smith should have known the tax law, and how it was his responsibility to pay.

    First off, the Income tax is not Constitutional, the founding fathers would have never allowed such a tax to be levied on the people. Much like the Federal Reserve, the IRS and income tax is alien to what this country stands for. If America was "truly" free, if a man makes $2 million, he should be able to keep 100% of it, not be forced to pay a huge percentage of it to the government.

    And, I also predict some of you will come in and run your mouths about how we need the income tax to build roads, schools, and other facilities. LOL, if you think this, you're wrong, local and state taxes are used for that, not the income tax. The Income tax only pays the INTEREST on the national debt. All the money Americans pay per year in Income Taxes cannot even touch the principal of the national debt.

    The reason we have such a national debt is because our corrupt government spends money on wars and other BS that just push this country closer to poverty.
     
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  3. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Why do these stories never have sources? Let me guess, alex jones? :rolleyes:
     
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    live-cms_com Notable Member

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    If they don't pay off the debt_interest what do you think will happen to the country? Certainly nothing good.
     
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  5. tesla

    tesla Notable Member

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    The source is on the front page of yahoo news, which I said in my first post? What, you didn't read it?

    We wouldn't have a huge national debt if we:

    1. Got rid of the Federal Reserve. ( Ron Paul advocates this)
    2. Closed down our hundreds of bases around the world which support our empire. (Ron Paul advocates this).
    3. Returned to hard money like gold and silver. (Ron Paul advocates this)

    We have a large national debt simply because the government prints, and prints, and prints, and prints money for wars and anything else they want. Then they tax us(their good little slaves), to pay the interest on it. And if you have a problem paying the income tax, the government will take your money like they did to Will Smith, or, in the case of Ed and Elaine Brown:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_and_Elaine_Brown, the government will raid your home with U.S. Marshalls with machine guns, and you will be thrown in prison, and your money, property, and land will be confiscated.

    In some cases, like Ruby Ridge:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Ridge, the government will just about kill your entire family if you refuse to pay your income taxes. Damn, that sure sounds like the Mafia to me. If the IRS isn't a Mafia, perhaps I don't know what a Mafia is.

    Even if you believe in the Income Tax, why is it the government has to send 30 guys with machine guns to your home if you don't pay? Maybe I'm strange but, doesn't that sound like Russia, China, or Mexico? Doesn't sound like a free country to me.

    We didn't have an income tax, or a Federal Reserve, until the 1913, and the country has continued to decline ever since. For all of you here who support the income tax, if it is such an important tax that we "need," why didn't the founding fathers include when the Constitution and Bill of Rights was written? Why was it tagged on later?
     
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    demosfen Peon

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    Getting paid in cash solves the problem. If somebody offers me a discount for paying cash, I can understand why
     
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  7. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    No, I didn't. Normally when you post, the first thing I look for is a source link. If, by chance, it isn't a link to a url with prison or anti in the link, I explore further.
     
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    That is because you are the original sheeple's sheeple GT. :D
     
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    Oh, good lord. AGS, when will this sink in?

    No matter how many times you ask Gtech to date you, IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. I know your heart's been broken, but please, please, please find another obsession. For the good of all of us.
     
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    If you go to www.yahoo.com right now, you will see at the top of the headlines page a video where Will Smith is talking about how the IRS took millions away from him when he was 19 years of age. I agree with Smith that at the time, he didn't see the need to pay the money to the IRS. After all, it was HIS money.

    But Will Smith learned the hard way that we no longer live in a free country. If we did, the government would not have came into his life a year after he struck it rich, and took everything he had. As you watch the Interview, you can tell that Smith is pretty sad about what happened, and he realizes the true nature of this country.

    Like the Mafia, sometimes the IRS has to remind people(especially those who are famous), that you have to pay your extortion money every year. If you don't, there will be serious consequences. Just ask Willie Nelson or Weslie Snipes.
     
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    This is a great idea, among other things. Unfortunately, for someone like Will Smith, being on television and in movies puts you on the radar of the IRS. It is real hard to avoid paying any of your taxes when your famous. I bet the IRS pays real close attention to celebrities, because they are easy targets, I mean, you know they make millions.

    This is why I never want to be famous. Some people like the fame, I don't. It just brings unwanted attention to your life, you can't take a dump without the press knowing about it. More than that, the IRS watches you like a hawk. It is much better to be an invisible millionaire, or an invisible billionaire, and, indeed, their are many people on the Internet and in this very forum who make tens of thousands per month without paying anything to the IRS.

    You people know who you are, my best advice for you is to watch your back, because the IRS is no joke, and they don't play games.
     
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    I'm watching it now. Home page on Yahoo under featured videos. Will post shortly after i see the whole thing.

    On another note...Tesla you are a good man, and a very intelligent one, just ignore Gtech he always tries to bring people down, twist their words and get under their skin. (I can almost guarantee you that he is a failure socially and this forum is the only medium where he can feel important)

    Here's the link;
    http://www.yahoo.com/s/752232
     
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    Oh, they don't just go after the rich. Trust me, from one neither rich nor "under the radar" after having his ass handed to him in a bad business turn.
     
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  14. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    tesla, I don't share your views. A country our size with the number of people need a government. I'll be the first to admit I hate the IRS and would like nothing more than to see it go away. My candidate has an alternative plan. Not a "dismantle the US Government and take us back to the stone ages plan" but a real plan.

    I like Will Smith. My kids grew up watching Fresh Prince and there's not a day in our house that FPB is not on the tube. There are consequences if you do not pay your taxes. Many have tried to challenge such, but end up paying the price. I know, I had a good friend several years ago that went to jail for a year for tax evasion. One of the nicest guys you'd ever meet, but he screwed up and paid the price.

    I agree with you that the IRS doesn't play games either. I hate what they do. They literally destroy people. The law is the law, and until we get someone in who can offer a better solution, we have to abide by those laws. It's not a law of convenience. We are free to pick and choose what laws we want to abide, but we are also held accountable for those actions.
     
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    Your candidate has a temporary solution, a Band-aid for a gunshot wound. Good intentions but not nearly addressing the problem. Paul can eliminate the income tax by working on the other end, cutting programs that don't work as they were intended when we first started dumping massive amounts of money into them. We do need a government, but we don't need a gigantic, inefficient one like the version we have now.
     
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    Gtech, many of these government agencies and programs we have today didn't exist before 1913. Between the time the country was founded until 1913, we were doing fine, in fact, better than fine, Americans were extremely well off. Just think about it Gtech, with the exception of the Civil War, before 1913, there was no income tax, no federal reserve. Can't you see that we were a much more free nation then?

    You still haven't explained to me why, if the Income tax is so important, why wasn't it clearly instituted when the country was first founded? We don't even need an income tax. I firmly believe this country could get along fine without it, if we just stopped being an Empire and become a Republic. When you're an Empire, you have to place burdensome taxes on the people, because you need money to support that growing empire. Think about it.

    Ron Paul doesn't want to send us back into the stone age, he wants us to return to a free and prosperous nation, were people like you, me, and Will Smith can make as much money as our abilities and talents allow, and be able to keep every penny of it. Now thats the type of presidential message that makes me want to get Ron Paul in office.

    You admit yourself that the IRS is repressive, and Ron Paul has proposed a solution: by closing down the hundreds of bases we have around the world, which make us an empire, we can turn back into a Republic, save billions of dollars, and then the IRS can be eliminated for good.

    Most of the federal agencies we have today in this country today are designed to do one thing: Keep a small group of people in power, and the rest of us serfs.

    The income tax violates "organic law." There is nothing free or libertarian about it. You've got people being sent to prison, people losing their money, and people being killed, not because they did anything wrong, but because they didn't turn over their money to the government.

    It is one thing to commit murder, rape, or to steal from someone. These are true crimes which have laws, because if you commit these crimes, you violate "organic law," and bring harm to another human being. But the Income Tax is different. Here you have made money, earned something that is rightfully yours, and the government passes a law saying a portion of it belongs to them.

    For the record, I'm not against all taxes. I believe in the sales tax, or any tax that you have a "choice" in paying. The United States makes hundreds of billions off the sales tax alone, each time you buy something you pay it. And the amount you pay is so small you don't even notice it.

    The Income Tax is draconian, totalitarian. Pay it or you get your money confiscated. Pay it or you go to jail. What kind of a tax is that? It is not the tax of a free nation.
     
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    The Founders understood natural law, and they understood inflation. That is why numerous attempts to set up central banks in early American history failed, and were collapsed.

    The FED is a parasite, and the bill is now starting to come due.

    First it fed off the gold and silver standard. Then it killed silver. Then with Bretton Woods, it exploited the post WWII world, and the spending for Vietnam killed gold. So then a correction came into place, and the currency and economy briefly stabilized.

    Then came the Gulf War, and the rapid and on-demand expansion of credit (which is the last feeding ground of a central bank). We're starting to experience credit crisis, along with a devaluing dollar.

    My only hope, is that if the crash comes, that people learn from the past, and we have enough men of integrity and conviction to make sure we never undertake a central bank scheme again. Hopefully not many people will be hurt, and those strong leaders will allow the recessions and depression to come and pass quickly, without further manipulating the market.

    Of course, they could just do what Ron Paul wants to do. Legalize the Constitution. Return to hard money as the backing for currency.
     
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    Willie Nelson got creamed by the IRS and he needed some "Willie Aid"

    His accountant was robbing him and the IRS demanded the back taxes on the miney that his accountant stole.
     
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    If this country's economy falls through the floor, we may learn our lesson, but I think it will be too late. I don't think we will have a chance to make things right, because there is a lot riding on the situation this country is in right now. I kind of liken it to a child who is told by his parents to always look both ways before he crosses the street, but the kid doesn't listen, and one day he crosses, and just as he sees the car coming onto him, he realized why his parents gave him the advice, but it is too late.

    But, I think the country probably will fall. I've talked to a friend of mine who knows someone going to Iraq next month, and he has been told that the U.S. WILL attack Iran. In fact, the war with Iran has already started, but it is clandestine, we're using special forces to attempt to destabilize the country.

    Once the attack on Iran happens, everything will go down hill. We are a long way from November 2008, and a lot can happen between now and then. Ron Paul may never even get a chance to get in the White House, because depending on what happens after we strike Iran, the 2008 elections may be canceled.

    I think this country may very well be doomed. Once China rises higher, only the European Union will be able to oppose it economically, the U.S. will become a minor player. This is the thing that Gtech doesn't understand. If he or anyone else in this forum supports a preemptive attack on Iran, they need to understand that this country is finished.

    Iran will immediately attack Israel with long range missiles, send troops across the border into Iraq, and the price of oil will shoot to $200 per barrel. This means the cost of food and everything here at home will shoot through the roof, because everything is tied to oil, whether directly or indirectly. Not only that, the entire Middle East will blow up, and some countries who are part of Opec restrict sales of oil to the west.

    More seriously, there are Russian Nationals working at those nuclear facilities in Iran. If one of our missiles hits the facility, and kills Russian nationals, the Russians could consider this an act of war. The situation between the U.S. and Russia has deteriorated, especially with the Russians pulling out of the CFE Treaty due to the missile defense shield Bush has positioned in Eastern Europe.

    This country is a mess...........I'm starting to wonder if only a miracle can save us. If Ron Paul gets in, we will have a good chance, but with a pending attack on Iran, and the dictator provisions Bush has taken, there is nothing stopping the 08 elections from being canceled altogether. This is what scares me.
     
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    I'm a lot more optimistic than you tesla, although I acknowledge there are some very ugly scenarios that could play out. That's why it is funny when people laugh at Ron Paul for voting No in Congress, when much of the legislation that has been pushed through has not been in the country's best interests.

    The strange thing is, I love reading. I love reading about history. So many people today don't even know what is in the Constitution, they don't know why the Revolution was fought in the first place, and how inflation due to war and empire, as well as central banking were key issues with the King of England.

    GTech complains about being surrounded in this forum by anti-Americanism. Sometimes, I feel like there is a void of Americanism as well, but it's not the "wrap me in the flag" Americanism, it is the true spirit of independence and liberty.

    Btw, I'm reading "Crash Proof" by Peter Schiff. Excellent book. You might want to check it out.
     
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