I had a site that was PR4 and had also started 5 new sites which were PR0 before the update. I did lots of link building and all the PR0 sites ended up PR3. The PR4 also dropped to PR. The link building I did was the same for each site. This means that all the original links that made the first site a PR4 must have meant nothing considering it dropped to PR after getting the same backlinks that the new sites got. i.e it had all its links that made it a PR plus all the links that made the new sites PR3. Does this seem weird?
No actually it seems artificial and Google is very good at detecting link schemes and applying a filter to keep webmasters in check. Unless all of your sites are on the same exact topic then using the same links makes it easy to detect you are building links unnaturally. Spread your link building to sites related directly to your site, do not make a pattern as this is easily detectable. Peace!
But they are natural links. All the sites are part of a group of sites on the same topic. They all rank very highly in google, so that is not a problem.
The fact that you built the same links indicates that its not natural. Natural links are built by other webmasters who find your content very good and link to it freely. Patterns are easy to decipher and while your terms may be ranking well,. that is likely due to the fact the terms are not very competitive and probably drive very minimal traffic.
It is relevant reciprocal linking which is liked by google nowadays. numerous tests have been done and they like relevant sites to link to each other. The keywords are very competative. One of them gets 7,000 uniques per day. It is only relevant link exchanging. I have a lot of "google backlinks" so they must be happy.
Actually reciprocal linking is a thing of the past...something I last did about 4 years ago. What we know works is one way anchor text links. Below is Googles new stance on useless reciprocal links. http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=66356 Excessive reciprocal links or excessive link exchanging ("Link to me and I'll link to you.") As you can clearly see Google really does not care much for this type of thing and likely filters out such methods. I would love to see a screen shot of your server stats showing 7,000 uniques daily.....I mean we can all make claims can't we? As for issues regarding links & SEO I have over 500 front page top results for myself and many many more for sitting in place for up to 4 years straight for clients and I can send proof!
I think there's nothing to be worried about if your just gathering links that is related to your site.
It seems to be working. Nothing is wrong with my rankings. I have overtaken sites that have been around for a while. I was just interested to know why the PR would have gone down on the first site.
Well from my knowledge, what you experienced is the temporary boost given by Google to over zealous link builders as the Search Engine can be effected by a large amount of links, which will push the site up,, however once full score is complete, the sites will drop back to normal levels. Since the following sites you worked on came after the initial site, their scoring will take longer,,, in time they are likely to see a drop as well. Another issue is you could have been linked to by a high PR website, and the website was hit by a Google filter which lowered their score and in turn the link to your site is devalued and you lose PR as well. This would not bode well for your other sites if they are linked to by the devalued site. Peace!
This is the same "expert" who is claiming in another DP thread that Google cannot possibly detect paid links. This is the same "expert" who in the afore-mentioned DP thread disputed that relevance was even a factor or that the concept of relevance had anything to do with algorithmic detection of paid links. This is the same "expert" who repeatedly proclaimed in that other thread that algorithms can only deal with averages and repeatedly stated that Google cannot detect individual paid links. Apparently, he hasn't noticed the inherent contradiction between his comments here and his comments in that other thread. There is nothing wrong with reciprocal linking per se, no matter how long ago you last did it. Reciprocal links occur organically with some regularity. Reciprocal links work just as well. Nonsense. That page is about artifical link schemes, not about reciprocal linking. The key is rfelevance of the link, not whether it's one-way, two-way, or 12-way.
Also the same expert who thinks the document that was Indexed First, will always rank highest and can't be beaten by a duplicate. When proven wrong twice, tried playing down the issue stating it's only because "full document scoring" hadn't been factored. Well it's a couple of months, and my page is still #1 and i've even removed alot of backlinks because the experiment is done. So SEM, when is it going to start? Don't worry Minstrel, she will learn one day.
I think about the problem: when the Google pagerank updates, if your website donot response, or cannot open, your website donot online, such questions can cause that your website hasnot pagerank this time. Sorry maybe there are some spelling mistakes for poor english.
minstrel...thank you...finally someone who agrees with me. For the others... If recip linking is bad then how are people going to get rankings. Most sites don't get linked to by the average user. If you serach matt cutts and reciprocal linking in google then it comes up with some good answers.
The fact you do not know I am a man shows you are totally ignorant. As far as your luck with one document thats wonderful. If you could do it for a high competition keyword then you would be doing something.. Otherwise what you have proven is your great at yacking Anytime you want to try and move one of my keywords off googles front page let me know.. I've been waiting for years. As for minstrel I laid down the challenge to him as well and his tactic is to stalk me and try to make me look like I do not know what I am doing , Jealousy sucks doesn't it. great content and one way links And check this out online advertising will often bring a more targeted buy minded consumer. Advertising has worked for centuries.............
Hey here he is, i knew i wouldn't need to let the bait soak long before i got a bite. URL and keyword?
Duh if you subscribe to the post it emails you when a child is posting a response So your supposed bait tactic did not work it was a simple email notice that you replied..... I tell you what lets start with an easy one for you. custom top 8 profileguy.com It has been at # 1 about 8 months so it should be easy for you to move. It is a non branded term so must rank will not apply. In what year will you be done so we can all check back? Game on and please don't wimp out......I love competition and not finding any is really boring.