Hitler Lost the War Because He Was a Drug Addict

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by diex, Dec 3, 2007.

  1. #1
    Hi.

    I have watched countless documentaries analysing WW2 and the fall of the Nazi's. They usually make sense. Well some of you may have seen "High Hitler" which attempts to document Hitlers addiction to drugs. I hate to say this, but if you accept the premise that he was on these manic drug induced highs, it may explain the blunder in Russia where he led his army to slaughter.

    Agree?
     
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  2. northpointaiki

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    No. From 1925/26, with the publication of Mein Kampf on, Hitler's plan was very clear; so much so, I'd say, that it was a blueprint for action. The Russian campaign would win him his much vaunted lebensraum, and the plan was born in the cool common rooms of Landsberg prison, not under the fever of drugs.

    Look, he was the supreme commander and civilian head all in one. He could do whatever he wanted, down to the most infinitesimal operational level. A 2 front war was what he needed if he was to fulfill the promise he made (to himself) in 1925. Though a 2-front war is always hazardous, he very nearly succeeded. Outside Moscow, he split his army and we know what happened. Napoleon's loss was his loss, and the rest is, shall we say, history.
     
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    I guess this confirms that Bush and Hitler have more in common then previously thought.
     
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  4. Will.Spencer

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    #4
    Hitler lost the war because the Americans decided to enter the war.

    If we had not reacted forcefully to the bombing of Pearl Harbor, the entire world would be a different place today.
     
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    Dude your version of history is absolutely warped... where the hell did you get that from? Hitler lost the war because he attacked Russia. How many levels of education have you had?
     
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  6. Will.Spencer

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    guru-seo:

    There you go again with your personal attacks. Those are quite clearly against the rules -- as you well know.

    Hitler would have won in Russia had he not had to face the Americans on two fronts and Americans aid on the third front. That is quite obvious.
     
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    He deffo fooked it by trying to attack the 2 sides at the same time.

    I cannot see Wills posts because I have him on permanent ignore but he gets most of his info from GTech so take it all with a large pinch of salt buddy. :D
     
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    AGS, all of GTech's posts should be taken with a pinch of saffron and some hot massage oil.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    I'm a little concerned over the discussion between you two about pinching and hot oil. If you two want to play like democrats, how about taking it to PM or Yahoo chat?
     
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  10. diex

    diex Well-Known Member

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    I'm not certain it would have been much of a 2 front war had America not entered the war.

    Guru-seo, so you think the western front was Britain and France?? Are you familiar with WWII??
     
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    So you think if Hitler had no connections to drugs he would have won the war?
     
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    #12
    Yeah, he was a meth-head, but he didn't lose the war at all... He just relieved he needed to take it underground.

    Hence the IN WRITING plans of the united nations to reduce the population by 95% through war, disease, poverty, and starvation. Also, they're really still into that whole aryan superior race thing.

    I don't think he lost, cause I still think that war is taking place, just in a diffirent form now, I think he rethought the strategy along with his fellow cahoots.

    Either way, that kind of ideology can't carry on for too long, its not productive to the whole.
     
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    Wrong. Hitler lost the war because he attacked the Soviet Union without defeating (or at least making peace) with Britain and squaring away America. By far the bulk of the fighting took place on the Eastern front. If you want to put it in rough percentages from about 1943 onwards the British and Dominion forces were responsible for about 10% of the destruction of German armies, the U.S.A. about 15% - and the Soviet Union the other 75%. The Red Army won World War 2 in Europe. In terms of 20th century history the American contribution wasn't so much in defeating Hitler but in getting troops to Europe that acted as a bulwark against Soviet expansionism and consequently contributed to the US-led victory in the Cold War.

    You DID win the war against Japan though.
     
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    #14
    I thought Hitler had a "peace" deal with Stalin then Stalin broke it. I got the impression that the Russians first attacked the Germans, not the other way wrong. Although I have miss understood.
     
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    #15
    An interesting bit of Soviet-era propaganda. It's amusing to see that it didn't die with the rest of the Soviet Empire.
     
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    #16
    Hitler and Stalin had a deal, but it was Hitler that broke it.
     
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    #17
    hmm not what I recall.. but I probably misinterpreted. If you got pay tv there's like 5 doco channels that show WW2 docos nonstop... so yeah prolly confused.
     
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    #18
    why don't you show us evidence that contradict his claims instead of simply calling what he said propaganda
     
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    #19
    The Germans lost the war because:
    • The U.S. Army Air Corps completely destroyed the Germans military-industrial infrastructure.
    • The U.S. and Allied troops destroyed the Germans access to fuel.
    • The U.S. and Allied troops denied the German Army access to Western and Southern Europe, which were supplying most of their other equipment needs.
    • The U.S. Army Air Corps bombed the German civilian populace until they lost their will to fight.

    No fuel, no arms, no equipment, no will to fight -- no more war for the Germans.

    The Russians? They defended their own territory as best the could with incompetent leadership, largely outdated equipment, and extremely limited supplies.

    The Russians didn't even enter Germany until mid April -- two months after the Allies did so on the Western front. Indeed, the Russians only took Berlin because Eisenhower decided he didn't want it.

    The Soviet spin machine worked hard to make their government appear to be better than it was -- or else the populace would have rebelled in the middle of the war.
     
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    #20
    Good post will, although were they not heavily outnumbered? - maybe i'm wrong..
    And the Germans were fighting on 2 stretched out fronts - maybe i'm wrong again :/
     
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