Teacher arrested for letting class call teddy bear Mohammed

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  1. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #221
    Ashkenazic and Sephardic Jews comprise 85-90% of the world's Jewish population and originate from the land of Israel.

    Jews have always retained a presence in Palestine and did not have to move back. Jews have always been in Israel.

    The Jews are an ethnic group and Judaism is a Religion. People that practice Judaism are also called "jews" but are not ethnically Ashkenazic, Sephardic or descendant from other ethnically Jewish peoples of Israeli origin.

    Still confused?
     
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  2. gauharjk

    gauharjk Notable Member

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    #222
    Friend, I can understand your concern over this. I would agree the religious divide is causing many problems, and a lot of misery to many people.

    You are concerned about what is happening in Sudan, and around the world. Muslims fighting, protesting, etc. But there are underlying reasons for everything.

    There is a cycle of violence, an unending cycle of violence.

    It all began during the First World War. Allied powers sent Lawrence of Arabia to Arab countries to garner their support against the Ottaman Empire. In return, they were promised independence from the rule of Ottoman Turks.

    But they were betrayed. All Arab countries, including Palestine, Egypt, Lebanon, etc were distributed amongst the victor countries as the spoils of war. What a shame. The last Caliph of Islam, was exiled in Switzerland, and no one knows what happened to him or his family. That was the point the Muslims realized they cannot trust the West.

    The same thing happened again, when in 1948, israel was created, and millions of Palestinians were driven out of their homes. US threatened Egypt and Jordan with nuclear weapons. The memory of Hiroshima bombings was still fresh, and Arabs could do nothing but watch helplessly, while their brothers in the heart of Arabia were being tormented.

    Again the same thing in 1952 Suez Canal War.

    Again the same thing in 1967 War.

    The same thing in 1982 invasion of Lebanon.

    Let me assure you, it is israel and USA who have created terrorists in the first place. Today, Palestinians constitute the largest refugee population in the world.

    My blood boils when I watch the bombings and killings in Iraq. When I watch the war footage of Afghanistan and Iraq, I loose my temper. When I realize that US is responsible for suffering of so many people, I feel pain in my heart. When I realize US was responsible for the Iraq-Iran war, which killed millions, I feel disgusted.

    Just as every Russian was termed as a communist, every Muslim today is perceived as a Terrorist.

    Every Muslim, regardless of nationality, ethnicity, is a brother of another Muslim. And we all share this pain, and the shame in our heart is too great, while we watch our brothers in Iraq, Palestine, Afghanistan being slaughtered like sheep.

    Today, when you see the Annapolis conference, you know it cannot happen, the conditions on the ground would not let it happen.

    BUT, it the US president George W. bush, delivers on his promise of creating an independent Palestine, based on Justice, then he will be THE MOST RESPECTED PRESIDENT IN THE HISTORY OF AMERICA, and his name will be taken in the league of Great people.

    But Palestine should be an independent state, not an Israeli vassal.

    Believe me, Palestine is the key to solving this problem.
     
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  3. Aceday

    Aceday Banned

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    #223
    Rofl, quite desperate attempts to make yourself sound clever there, unfortunately pointing out a few typos just makes you look idiotic, its a forum lol.

    Very entertaining post, you really cant comprehend loosing an argument. Im very well aware of the existence of people labeling themselves as atheist jews, thats what i was laughing at but you still don't understand an oxymoron.

    Anyways your stupid link proves my point.
    Your stubborn and arrogant nature is rather amazing indeed.
     
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  4. mcfox

    mcfox Wind Maker

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    #224
    Can you explain what you mean by pig Zionist?
     
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  5. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    #225
    This is why i have my doubts on the intellectual development of people such as Aceday.
    Where are you from, Ace ? :)
     
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  6. gauharjk

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    #226
    I think he said pig Zionist propaganda, not pig Zionist... :D

    I'm sure you'll agree with that...
     
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  7. Aceday

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    #227
    Whats a pig? a nasty nasty animal.

    Of course, Mr. crazy-propaganda-and-lies

    Born and live in the US. I have no nationality.
     
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  8. DevilHellz

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    #228
    Why do you people have to put "pig" before Zionist all the time ? It's strange.
    It wouldn't do any good if i always called you "pig muslim", would it ?
     
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  9. Aceday

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    #229
    I was talking about the propaganda. Zionism isnt really a religion, its more of an ideology, one as destructive as Communism and Marxism.
     
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  10. gauharjk

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    #230
    What is Zionism? It is Racism.

    I don't have any problem if you are a Jew, or Christain or Atheist. But I'm sure you are not a zionist.

    Jews are NOT Zionists.


    For more enlightenment on this topic, please visit www.jewsagainstzionism.com


    I believe that zionism is racism, because 60 years after being exiled from their homeland, in defiance of the four Geneva Conventions, UN Resolutions 181, 194, 242, 338, and others, and other multilateral and international human rights conventions, including the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the disinherited refugees of Palestine, continue to endure merciless punishment from the Zionist entity.

    I believe that zionism is racism, because it fails to admit the reality that the minority indigenous Jewish community in Palestine, that lived there for the last two thousand years, was an undistinguishable people from its Christian and Muslim Palestinian brethren, and that the leader of the Jewish community of the Jewish quarter of Old Jerusalem, Rabbi Lamram Blau, stood on the side of his Palestinian brothers and sisters being exiled in 1948.

    I believe that zionism is racism because in modern times, the promise of liberal democracy and justice is a double-edged sword, preached by the Western powers, yet only paid lip-service to in the case of Israel, where Palestinian are continuously expelled, ethnically cleansed, and subjugated, and in the cases where they are assimilated, they are granted, limited, if any, civil rights.

    I believe that zionism is racism, because in building Israel, the zionists were revising history, embracing the notion of racial superiority, an ideology that has empowered them to discriminate, with all of its associated social ills, injustices, and moral bankruptcy.

    I believe that zionism is racism because it self-propagates itself as a democratic movement. However, a democracy, cannot, by definition, only be representative of one community in a bi-national and tri-religious contiguous geographic area. A democracy cannot exist for one people and not for another. This as called Apartheid in South Africa, and is now called zionism in Palestine.

    Now you know...

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    You can also visit www.jewsnotzionists.org for more information.

    Jews, Christians and Muslims ought to be brothers man, we believe in the same One God.

    I believe all human beings are brothers of each other, because we are the decendents of Adam and Eve.

    If you are an Atheist, no problem. I just want to clear your misconception that Jews are NOT Zionists.
     
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  11. Aceday

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    #231
    The sad thing is Jews say Zionism is not related to Judaism but then call anyone who criticizes Zionism, a jew hater and anti-semitic.
     
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    #232
    Alot of Jewish people from what I know do not like 'Zionism' alot of those who call people against Zionism 'jew haters' are in fact not even Jewish in my experience.

    Which tells me they themselves do not know there is a difference.
     
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    #233
    Typos are mistakes in typing. You have difficulty with fundamental concepts. You have difficulty distinguishing "break" from "brake," "its" from "it's," cannot accept that there are, in fact, atheist Jews (despite ample evidence), and insist like a ninny that the term is an "oxymoron."

    Like I said, I didn't expect you to get it. Because you employ circular reasoning, you cannot understand why you are simply wrong; if an atheist Jew were to introduce him or herself to you, you would say it's impossible the person is what he or she says he or she is. Sad that such a young mind is so closed off already. One day you might learn the value of saying "I was wrong." It actually feels good to admit - trust me.

    To the subject of the thread, I see the teacher has been pardoned. I'm very glad to hear this good news. I understand she wants to continue to stay in Sudan and teach. From all accounts, an amazing woman.
     
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    #234
    So bitter :D

    [​IMG]

    lol
     
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    #235
    I'm still trying to wake up here so if it's already been posted, my mistake.

    Did you all see she's been pardoned? ;)
     
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    #236
    I hear you - 3rd cup of coffee down, starting to pulse.

    I mentioned it above.
     
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    #237
    Yep, I heard this morning on the BBC. Someone started another thread on it.

    It's good to hear that the craziness has ended. The sad thing is that it's sure to put off many from offering their skills to that part of the world.
     
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    :eek:

    I tried reading through the above, w/o my coffee though I'm useless :D
     
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  19. northpointaiki

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    Well, I can give you a recap.

    It's all about a guy approaching middle age arguing with a teenager on the finer points of the word "oxymoron." Pretty worthwhile stuff.:D
     
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  20. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #240
    Walk away.

    Then run away.

    One has to wonder why this kid is still here... Is it a snow day for him today?

    To Ace, yes... His jealousy, ignorance and bigoted spirit seem to indicate that he believes they are.

    Might want to look up oxymoron in the dictionary.. I've seen you use it quite a few times in this context, and your use of it makes no sense.

    Jews are a race
    Judaism is a religion

    Where were you educated, Hitlers school of sickos? You sound like Alah-I'm-A-Jihad guy from Iran...

    It's kinda obvious, don't ya think? He's referring to anyone that does not think like him.. and is not a Jew.


    Yeah, saw that early this morning.. Like I posted previously in this thread, that is exactly what I thought would happen... It's all hype, another ploy to make the cultly side of Islam, ie., the extremists look like they are nice and compassionate.

    The thing is, she never should have been arrested to begin with. Presidential Pardon.. What a joke..

    Imagine having that on your record.. Hey, I was pardoned by the leader of a cult sect of nutty physco Islam for Teddy Bear Naming Crimes...

    When you put this idiot crap into the context it belongs, it sure looks pretty dumb, doesn't it?
     
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