Teacher arrested for letting class call teddy bear Mohammed

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  1. northpointaiki

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    #201
    I know Devil to be an atheist, and a Jew. I know many atheist Jews. Therefore, it seemed to me to be a comment on both atheists and Jews. If I have misconstrued your true intent in this example, I apologize.
     
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    #202
    I'd say he's an extremeist Jew.
     
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    #203
    Jews are an ethnic group originating in Israel.

    Jews had always retained a presence in Palestine.

    the Ashkenazim and Sephardim comprise 85-90% of the world's Jewish population

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_ethnic_divisions
     
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    #204
    Whats your point, there are black jews, chinese jews, indian jews, even iranian jews!!!
     
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    #205
    You seem confused. Judaism is a religion. The Ashkenazim and Sephardim comprise 85-90% of the world's Jewish population and originate from Israel.
     
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    #206
    lol that is my very point, its exactly what i said. Im not the one saying its a race.

     
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    #207
    I think you're in the wrong thread...
     
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    #208
    Why is this an oxymoron?
     
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    #209
    Aceday is claiming that "atheist" and "jew" cannot be put together, by definition, since he is claiming that "jewishness" is a religion only.
     
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    #210
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxymoron
    Judaism is all about monotheism and worshiping the 1 true God, so the term 'atheist jew', is a great oxymoron to me.

    mono = 1

    eg. monosaccharide - 1 molecule of sugar

    a = non

    eg. abiotic - non biotic (living)


    Dont think i can brake it down more than that, i think i should just dumb down my English in future.
     
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    #211
    While I accept your intent in good faith, you are ignoring the reality that there are secular, ethnic jews. For many, "atheist Jew" isn't an oxymoron - it defines them.
     
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    #212
    Jews are not a race....Judaism is a religion. lol. It is an oxymoron.
     
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    #213
    You also seem to be confused.

    Jews are an ethnic group originating in Israel.

    Judaism is a religion

    I hear you.
     
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    #214
    Are these 2 jews from the same eithnic group?

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    According to Science, humanity originated in Africa, does that mean everyone has a right to move back to africa?
     
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    #215
    Who cares about jewish ethnicity anyway, not me. Dont know why im even arguing about this lol.
     
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    #216
    No, they are not from the same ethnic group, and no one denies religious Jews come from all ethnicities.

    Now, is the Society for Secular Humanistic Judaism the same thing as the Rabbinical Council of America?

    Both organizations are Jewish. One is secular. One is not.

    Hence, "atheist Jew" is not necessarily an oxymoron. Not sure why you are avoiding the obvious.
     
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    #217
    lol im sorry but it is technically an oxymoron, you dont get more of an oxymoron than atheism and monotheism, i was mocking the stupidity of people like devil that say it. Btw Your 2 examples are totally different.
     
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    Precisely. The two examples are totally different. As I have said all along, there are religious Jews, and atheist Jews. There are ethnic Jews, and non-ethnic Jews.

    I'm sorry this seems difficult for you. Atheists cannot be mono- or poly-theists, for that matter, and an atheist Jew is patently not an oxymoron.
     
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    #219
    See your the one finding this difficult, i dont think you understand an oxymoron, its used rhetorically and satirically, not this seriously.

    I never said atheists are mono or poly, this is your odd interpretation again, i thought i had made its simple for you, i will brake it down again.

    Atheist = NON theist
    Jew, monotheist = 1 theist, believes in one GOD.

    You cannot be both at the same time, you are either atheist or jewish. Thus it is an oxymoron. It doesnt make a difference if there are ethnic and non ethnic jews, (which there isn't, they are a rainbow of ethnicities). ITS STILL AN OXYMORON because the term 'atheist jew' is plainly contradictory and stupid. I think you just have a hard time loosing an argument, so you talk crap (berkeley gone to your head???).

    Example of your stupid argument:
    Oxymoron: This is a big small house.
    Northpoint: Thats not an oxymoron some houses are big but have small rooms.
     
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    #220
    Aceday, you are a 17 year old kid, so you have a long leash when it comes to being a puerile, disrespectful snot. One day you might find the value of humility, because you're stepping in your own ridiculous mistakes and the crap you smell is yours, and the value of courage, which gives you the ability to admit when you're wrong.

    First of all, a bit of English you might have missed growing up. That's "break" it down for you, which means to separate the argument into its component parts, not "brake" it down, which means to slow it down. And that's "it's used," which means, "it is used," not "its used," which means, "the used that belongs to it."

    Secondly, a Jew, for the umpteenth time, can be secular, or religious. Therefore,

    Jew (religious, ethnic or not) atheist = oxymoron.

    Jew (secular, ethnic) atheist = description that is not an oxymoron. This is an ethnic Jewish person, who is an atheist. It's a basic concept. Here, a two second web search yields a basic primer for you: Atheist Jews

    I don't expect you to get this. Perhaps you should run this one by mommy or daddy.
     
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