why my name???

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by Taliban, Nov 30, 2007.

  1. pipes

    pipes Prominent Member

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    #41
    I understand, im from your cousin country and have seen things unfold, some of the suicide bombers arrested here in england lived only 5 to 6 miles from where i live.

    I see your point, maybe it is just to wind people up, but to keep my thinking in a rational way theres always to possibility that no offence is intended.

    Referring to jesus, apologies, i was referring more to offline, latin folks and others sometimes have names like jesus etc.
     
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  2. pipes

    pipes Prominent Member

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    #42
    Your right, i could be a crack head indeed, lol

    I personally am not offended by the word Taliban.

    If someone chose the name Jihad2USA then i could see that as unmistakingly an obvious attack.
     
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  3. zehrila

    zehrila Peon

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    #43
    I am not american, and i dont know if taliban means terrorist, i shall believe in wikipedia, America is not whole world.
     
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    allout Prominent Member

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    #44
    Bottom line is that the OP knew what he was doing when he picked the name. Unless he lived in the jungle and had no access to any media source until he joined DP, he knew what the name meant and what controversy he would cause.

    I am not sure if he thought it was a joke at the time or would be funny to some members of the forum but either way he needs to live with what he created.
     
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  5. sawz

    sawz Prominent Member

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    #45
    to me Taliban represents a group of people who are killing my countrymen, and women.

    the name ~~Hitler~~ is the same.

    and this thread is starting to look like something from the Politics forum.
     
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    010081 Banned

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    #46
    i guess thread starter knows well now why he is given red...

    LETS CLOSE THIS THREAD BEFORE WAR STARTS HERE.
     
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  7. pipes

    pipes Prominent Member

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    #47
    The way to look at it, even if anything was intended to be offensive, turn the tables, see the point of view from the other side.

    Do you not think people in the middle east get offended to outsiders in their country?

    Im just saying if we want to look at things fairly, remember that many people have been killed on both sides, many suffered losses, this isn't only affecting a few countries, it affects the world.

    We all have problems, to the American readers here, we in england suffered bombings in the uk mainland for decades by the IRA, its well known that supporters in america, help IRA and the loyalists financially and in other ways, they were sympathisers, we didn't blame americans though.

    My ancestry is irish, im english, my parents are scottish, what side do i take? does it matter? will i help anyone by taking sides?

    One of my grandparents left a pub in the city centre minutes before it was blown up years ago, many people come very close to death all the time, regardless of the support in something or not.

    There is a world outside of americamy friends, spain suffers its problems with terrorism, way before 911.
     
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  8. pipes

    pipes Prominent Member

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    #48
    Hitler is a surname though, not the name for an organisation.

    America trained the Afghans during the war with russia. :) you could argue that they passed on their skills.;)
     
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  9. syd

    syd Active Member

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    #49
    you hit the nail on the head
     
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    sawz Prominent Member

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    #50
    sadly i'd have to agree with you on that. sucks we trained em.
     
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    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #51
    have a chat with ~~Hitler~~ maybe you can be friends?
     
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    allout Prominent Member

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    #52

    Hitler was also one of the perpetrators of one of the worse moments in history. He was a very sick man who murdered millions. There is no one that does not know the history of Hitler and the use of the name has nothing to do with surnames.

    As far as the training of Afghans, I agree that Americans did train them to fight the Russians because at the time, they were eliminating the bigger threat. However, as hindsight has shown us, it turned out to be a big mistake as was helping Iraq in their war with Iran.

    Neither point has anything to do with the fact that the OP knew what the name meant to most of the world and what effect it would have by using that name. :rolleyes:
     
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    #53
    Ignorance at it's finest, perfect example.

    I for one know exactly what the definition is. I'd also like to apologize on behalf of our "less intelligent" cohorts on this forum. Frankly, it is inexcusable.

    Yes, we were attacked on 9/11 by Middle Eastern people. However, that does NOT mean that everyone of Middle Eastern decent should be held in the same regard.
     
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    #54
    Just to play devils advocate...

    Hitler was also one of the most brilliant military strategists and leaders of that time. Yes, he used his power for something horrible. However, what if he didn't? I'll tell you what... we probably wouldn't be living in the same United States that we do.
     
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  15. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #55
    ah i am so glad you cleared that up for me, i always thought the Hitler Youth was an organization, i didn't think for one minute that all them kids where the children of people with the surname Hitler :rolleyes:
     
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  16. allout

    allout Prominent Member

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    #56
    Hmm, explain that one to me. :confused: How would the United States we know now be different if Hitler did not do what he did?

    Maybe the racists here in the United States would not claim to be Nazis but use some other leader to fascinate about.

    As for brilliant, it has been proved that he was not very intelligent. In fact much research proved that he was of low IQ and was just in the right place at the right time. He was a leader who used fear to convince people that he was doing something great. He would never had even succeeded if not for the harsh penalties suffered by Germany at the hands of the Allies after World War I.

    That argument aside, as stated, both users knew what they were doing when they picked those names and as so they must live with that without whining. :rolleyes:
     
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  17. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #57
    as i said before, it is not the meaning, it is the representation of the name, it is the name you choose you represent yourself on the site. and both names are well known and documented for what they represent.
     
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    #58
    Thanks sawz.
    I learned something new here today:)
    I didn't know that there is no second chance.
     
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  19. Taliban

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    #59
    I am thankfull to everyone who understood my point......for others NO i didn't know this username will create such situation i consider myself a student and i used it and i also used it on another forum......... admin of that forum is american and more then 40% users are from america but i never got such comments from any user there ....

    when i found this situation here i thought to share it with you guys so u may help me out ...........some suggested u should ask admin to change username .....i did that .........but others are just starting debates

    NOW what can i do.....i admitted this was my mistake and i m sorry for that but still people hate me for nothing......if someone has done anything wrong is there no way back?

    beleive me or not my idea of starting this thread was that senior users of forum will help me out but :(
     
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    #60
    ~~Hitler~~ and the taliban are names that will get a negative reaction. Kind of like El Mufti and Eichmann.
     
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