as some might know we have a new product Affiliate Hijacker and this is the FAQ which i want CB/CJ etc. publishers to read and give me their opinion. I get a lot of questions regarding my product, and they're mostly in regards to copyright issues and whether a vendor is fine when i, as an affiliate, would promote their product with this method. http://hijacker.superiorbits.com/faq.html If you read the FAQ you can also read that indeed no images or any files of a publisher's page are hosted or even "stolen"...the whole thing is implemented in a pretty tricky way. My question now , i just want to hear your opinions as publishers, say you have a site and promoting a product. Now affiliate x comes along and sells your product using my method..means you get your sale as well as the affiliate his commission..but he uses a site which basically is your sales-page. Would you, as a publisher be outraged and forbid the affiliate to promote and sell this product? Would you consider it copyright infringement, even if (as stated in FAQ) none of your files from your site are actually hosted on the "hijacker's" server/site ? <--- i think we have a very strong aspect here which speaks against "copyright infringement" here! Or would you in general be fine with the idea and welcome the fact that you have another affiliate selling your product? Btw. i personally use this method for some time, this includes some people here from the forum whos products i promote and i already made sales.. Georg.
elaborate ? why would it be scam? And what about it is "illegal" ? Please be careful calling other people scammers because i stand 100% behind my products and would strongly reject each any accusation of being a scammer or offering a product which is a scam. A scammer (according to my definition) is someone who pulls money out of people's pockets, based on false claims, lies or fraud etc. and doesn't deliver what he claims. You have a point tho..if thats really the impression you get from the sales-page we will work on that.
While I don't publish a product, if I had a sales page that converted very well, I'd definitely encourage other affiliates to copy it, use it, etc etc. Many clickbank publishers actually help you set up things like this as well - your own copy of their site on your domain, or a subdomain of theirs or such. It's not like the publisher is really going to miss out on any traffic they wouldn't have gotten otherwise, unless their site outranks the publisher's in adwords or organic search results. Even then, it's brand presence for free, and it makes the publisher money without spending a dime in ad costs. However, I think it's a publisher's personal decision - over whether or not any 'complete' piece of code/image/html/etc that he's authored is being duplicated. -T
hehe, your are one of my favs anyway since you have a bunch of really interesting niche products which i promote .)
I think it's unique, not lot's of people know how to do this stuff manually on their own. One thing I do think about is the bandwidth. Using hotlinks, and someones hosted files on your own could really bog down their website with traffic. Although! If this means more sales, then do it. Affiliate hijacker should be a widget for publishers to give to their affiliates. Then it would be the publishers own sales page techniques, but with more pages..... That double content stuff isnt good though..... Has it's advantages for a newb, and disadvantages for the experts.....
well after reading "profit from other people's work" and "hijack product and websites", it's nearly unevitable to feel like either you're selling a hack program, or its just bullshit....Its just a metaphorr, but when you read it feels like you're buying something illegal.
I dont think you understand how it actually works. It's def not a hack program.... As for the illegal part, If the publisher doesnt mind extra income......then I don't see what seems so illegal about it
I know. its about affiliate marketing. i understand the metaphor. i ALSO think im profiting from other pople's work when i get 75% of the value of the product just for PROMOTING it.....But as a seller you have to take every potential buyer like a children, and i can tell you the words "hijack" and "profit from other people's work" make it sound like a illegal program.
Just so you know some product owners even tell you to cloak your link apparently there is an html code that can do this, I just got it from ars, a lot of guru's use this method it seems like redirect is no longer popular so I do not think it is illegal
its for sure not "illegal"...but he has a point. We/I have to balance between "PR hype" and "NOT letting the product turn off potential customers" Its actually not that easy So..i was thinking that marketing in a way that it implies something sneaky (not "illegal") would actually cause interest...it certainly does, including debates like this here. But as said...this can backfire and is not necessarely good. Have someone working on a new sales-page and design and we will see what he is coming up with.
Not illegal at all Many sites and services exist for this very reason. There is no difference from this then there is forwarding your domain with masking, or buying adwords with masking (sorry - 'display url')... Good link bait post btw At the end of the day, you want sales, you want money, fast, if the affiliate/system/trick/method used is legal but walks a fine line who cares, that's what this game is all about. Thinking from a customers point of view - very important - most online shoppers are NOT in the IM field trying to sell to others entering in the IM field, we seem to choose these products thinking it's a great idea because everyone wants to make money! So we hide things, we're sneaky, we copy/paste/trick surfers all day long to get them to buy products we've endorsed by looking at some stats and trying to monetize... the rest of the surfers out there, the real cash pullers are in fact not IM related, but do offer aff programs - THOSE customers don't care for even a second about some link or wierd looking URL, they just want their product, once they buy they are oblivious and or don't care where the money goes/how it gets split up... Utilize your method with a product outside IM and you'll do well IMO. Utilize it with IM it's just a quick product cycle with reversioned info/tool mixes. Sorry to babble - in short - I wouldn't care and would encourage my sales people to utilize as little as they need to convert, copy/hide the page, if you're converting I'm happy. Cheers to converting NC.
Not saying otherwise, and I applaud your link bait not downing it in the slightest. For all those skeptical, click on Georg's 'hijacker' link, it's a great mix of tools/methodologies to monetize quickly. Best, NC.
As a publisher, affiliates can 'steal' whatever they want from my site, once they're using it to promote my product, it's fine.
I hate to ask, but do you have permission to sell covertlinks as your own creation? looking at your youtube vids (user flexy456) i see this is what you use to make the hijack pages, even on the covertlinks website they say the php version does just that... From covertlinks dot com / examples .... "The PHP Version creates Special Affiliate pages that "pull" the HTML Source Code from the Affiliated Vendor's web page and hosts it in your web page. The source code for your Special Affiliate web page is the same as the HTML source code for the Vendor's page. When a Search Engine visits your Special covertLinks created Affiliate page, it sees this source code as "content" on your web page, allowing it to be indexed as content for your web site" just my 2 cents worth i would not buy from ripoffs EDIT: Dude put an index page on your domain superiorbits dot com you dont want affiliatehunter to know you've uploaded his stuff (onegrandbundle in 375) and are probable going to sell onegrand as your own too Research everything people it is important!
vic, i am not selling covertlinks. In the first version of the book i recommended this tool. It was a problem since i dont want to sell books relying on 3rd party tools - despites the fact that i like to make changes to the program also. I created a web-interface and tool myself now, but this is my very own creation since i am a programmer too. All current versions of the book now still have the recommendation for covertlinks but in addition have access to the "hihacker online tool". OMG vic...i cant believe i had this like that............thanks for pointing this out...i didnt even know i had this on superiorbits.
Vic, LOL... Thanks for the tip...SB was totally open. Onegrand IS my own product - and Ulf Hedlund (programmer of amazonhunter) is my partner and i do have permission to bundle his "amazonhunter" with my ebook. G.
dp keeps timing me out twice i lost my post i hit preview and it said i was timed out and need to sign in i do not have time for this but can not and will not leave my postings like this i guess i will copy my post before posting this time incase im timed out again this sucks dp whats up with that????? how many others get pissed at this anys im sorry i do seem to post alot of neg and stuff but things just tick me off George i liked your answers and fully believe you, onegrande is yours. great work amazon hunter and your new hijacker should do excellent these are things affiliates are needing and they seem to work great, still new and nothing banned yet this is my last post tonight seeing i had made 2 posts pryor and they were lost and im tired of typing already and have to visit a neighbor george yes remember to always have an index page in all directories a simple meta refresh index page going to an offer would be nice, if you have any pages you do not want found use this in your headers , some of this may be new to some users... <meta name="GOOGLEBOT" content="noindex,nofollow,noarchive"> <meta name="ROBOTS" content="noindex"> <meta name="ROBOTS" content="nofollow"> <meta HTTP-EQUIV="imagetoolbar" CONTENT="no"> <meta http-equiv="pragma" CONTENT="no-cache"> again onegrand-amazon hunter and hijack looks to be great products that should and will sell nicly for you I will be an affiliate but i have no time to reserch now have to run my girl is calling have to run to the neighbors later vicmc also am scared of being timed out lol