Greatest threat to world peace

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Dude111, Nov 10, 2007.

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Whos the greatest threat to world peace?

  1. Al Queda

    15.5%
  2. Isreal

    12.7%
  3. North Korea

    2.8%
  4. USA

    51.4%
  5. Palestinian Terror Groups

    4.2%
  6. Iran

    7.7%
  7. China

    4.2%
  8. Syria

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. France

    1.4%
  1. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #121

    Why doesn't that surprise me. Maybe you should be a bit more tolerant.:rolleyes:
     
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    #122
    Mia, I don't tolerate you. I love you. :)
     
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    #123
    First off, Tolerance is acceptance. Its excepting something you know is wrong, you do nothing about it, you just accept it as part of life.

    I think everyone should accept a basic principle on right and wrong. If what one does to another is harmfully, obviously that is wrong. And should not be tolerated. If you tolerate it, it enables the toleration to worsen, to become more wrong. Toleration leaves an opening for a wrong to become worse and worse

    Its just like television here in america. It used to be very restricted, but little by little, its become vilolent, sexual, vulger, amoung other things. Now its at a point i wont let my 11 year old watch it because of the influences. This is due to toleration.
     
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    #124
    Hmm, not really sure if that "friend's help" is the issue here. Do you think if Iraq/Iran was living next to lets say not Israel, but some other country, then US would not interfere? I think it would do the same.
     
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    #125
    So if you are gay, and have sexual relations, does that mean I accept the idea of gays (ie. your right to be gay) or that I accept being gay as a lifestyle choice for myself?

    As long as what someone or someones are doing doesn't hurt anyone else, and is consensual, then I could care less what they do. I have no right to impose my morals on you, just as Islamic fundamentalists have no right to impose their morals on you, just as you do not have the right to impose your morals on anyone else.

    The Constitution protects this. You have a right to do whatever you want. And I have a right not to participate or be coerced to adopt it.

    I have to disagree with this. When you outsource education, you have to make free market choices. If TV is too vulgar, then there are other educational choices (and TV channels) for your child to watch.

    But the onus is on you, the parent, to make those choices.

    We're in the predicament we're in because everyone outsourced morality and decision making to the FCC. Just as we have outsourced charity to foreign aid decided by Congress. Just as we have outsourced curriculum and standards in education to the federal government. Just as we have outsourced the free market decision making process on alternative energy to the Department of Energy.

    There was a time when people watched less TV, and actually made decisions for themselves. And guess what? A lot of people made choices you would probably find a lot more moral than what exists today.
     
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    #126

    The FCC makes no decision without public input. Got a problem with something? RFC...
     
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    #127
    You have a very strange view on things, its like your saying its ok to be bad. I dont know if you have kids, but i hope you dont raise them with the values you are expressing here.

    We're not talking about an individuals morals , what is that? we are talking about morals period, they are universal, they are human morals not American or any others, but as humans we have an obligation to uphold moral values. We have an obligation to regulate right and wrong, otherwise you get chaos, and if you dont see that, and chaos is ok with you, then you are part of the problem.
     
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    #128
    It's easy for Guerilla to blame others, the FCC, Public Education, etc, rather than accept responsibility where it belongs; where it starts - at home with parents.

    Personally, I think I am better at making these decisions myself..
     
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    #129
    Public input. That's why they are further deregulating, despite massive public uproar...

    I agree, you are better at making these decisions. Although, I would like to remind you that reading is FUNdamental

     
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    #130
    You obviously have never given a public comment to the FCC. You can do so freely via their web site. For the record, I have not only commented, but I have spoken in front of the FCC several times... It's public comment that dictates policy, not some little man in a room.


    RIFF.....
     
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    #131
    Don't think that because you have a voice, that means someone is listening.

    If that was the case, the Democrats would have followed up on their mandate and defunded the war. Instead, they are perfectly happy to sit at sub 15% approval ratings.

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=d0KEwF6Fd68
    Video gets good at 2:00


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    #133
    Ah actually it does... Do I need to cite FCC legislation that I and my colleges have been involved not only in commenting on but authoring as well.. You're really speaking out of school on this one.

    If you took the time to get active and involved instead of shedding a negative light on everything you might actually realize that.

    Are we talking about the FCC or congress? Make up your mind.. We put people into office to do what we think they will do, hopefully, what we want them to do. When you are old enough to vote, you will find out how that works to. It's a Representative Republic we live in. That said, you vote for people who you feel will best represent you.

    That sub 15% belongs to a Democratically controlled congress.. Think about that when you are old enough to vote. :cool:
     
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    #134
    To get active, you need principled people in office, people who will be accountable to their constituents.

    If the GOP was accountable to their Christian base, they would have endorsed Ron Paul's Sanctity of Life bill, and erased Rowe vs. Wade. But they didn't.

    And this election, finally, they might pay the price from the Christian Right either going with a non-front runner (Huckabee) or breaking from the party altogether.

    Authoring legislation is only as good as the people voting on it. I'm working on support of people I consider principled for office. I'd suggest, before the Party conventions (whichever side you favor), you also do the same. State Primary conventions help select Congressional candidates and party platform. A lot of change can be implemented underneath the umbrella of choosing Presidential contenders.
     
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    #135
    Again, are you talking about the FCC or Congress? Maybe you just do not know? Nothing special is required to get active in the FCC.. Just start at http://fcc.gov

    That is all there is too it..

    You assume too much here.. Not every Christian wants the government wasting time on an issue that they can make up their own minds about. If someone wants to kill a baby, fine... Go for it.. You'll get your just when you meet your maker.

    I am pretty sure most of us while, probably concerned with such an issue, rank things like education, defense, taxes, and other issues much higher up on the list.

    How on earth did you segway into this? Are you talking about the FCC or abortion?

    Ah, Huckabee is a front runner... He's number two and closing.. RP does not even show up on any poll where the top 5 candidates are... Are you sure you know what you are talking about here? Again, how did you get to a discussion about Huckabee out of the FCC?

    Again, are you talking about the FCC here? Or Congress? Make up your mind..
     
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    #136
    Huckabee is a one state front runner. Paul out polls him in NH and Nevada. I don't even believe he carries the state he was Governor of for 11 years. Romney carries Utah, Michigan and Massachusetts, state's he has been associated with.

    Huckabee was second tier until 3 weeks ago.

    The primaries aren't for 6 weeks. After Iowa and New Hampshire, we'll know who the front runners are.
     
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    I have yet to see a single news network mention RP's name yet..
     
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    #138
    oops.. sorry, I thought this was the world peace thread... :)
     
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    #140
    Friends, I believe you've missed the topic of discussion.

    I don't mind, tough.
     
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