Do YOU believe in evolution?

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Do you believe in evolution?

Poll closed Nov 28, 2007.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

    36 vote(s)
    24.5%
  1. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #881
    We didn't evolve from monkeys or apes, we evolved from the primate family.
     
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    #882
    and the primate family evolved from a blade of grass
     
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  3. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #883
    Makes more sense then your opinion....

    A lonely always exisiting entity snaped his fingures and created the universe, he create creatures with free will and freedom but requires them to obey and follow him. Sounds like a dictatorship to me.

    It really is amazing after all the "evidence" and "theories" around evolution, age of the planet and universe people still deny it instead of find alternative methods of how god STILL could of played a part.

    Aren't child only the ones who talk to imaginary friends?
     
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    #884
    Parents are figments of your imagination.

    Think about it, the give birth to something with a mind of its own and then they have the nerve to require it to obey them.

    It makes no sense at all. They obviously don't exist.

    We should just get rid of parents. It's not like they force you to obey them because they know what's best for you and want only good things for you.

    They do it because they hate you. Because they want control.

    You should kill your parents. They're terrible people.
     
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    #885
    Science has no provable theory on the origin, God exist my friend, I pray he will call to you, that you may turn from Satan. And yes, I am a child, a child of God, and i think you envy that. I think you desire God. I wouldn't be surprised if you went bed at night and prayed that God would talk to you. Keep praying, maybe it will happen.
     
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  6. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #886
    You talk about prayers, what about the billions of prayers daily that go unanswered?
     
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    #887
    no prayer goes unanswered, sometimes Gods will is not our own, and the answer is no, or not now, but many times it is yes
     
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    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #888
    So, all those murders, rapes, deaths, terrorist attacks, natural disasters and man made disasters are all a part of your gods plan?
     
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    clinton Well-Known Member

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    #889
    do most of these people believe in God, if so than their not doing God's will. If they reject God than why should He protect them from things that go on in the world? People are too selfish, they think they can reject God, but when they ask "if there is a God", they wonder why He could let things happen to them. Do you know why God lets things happen to people??? It's because they don't allow Him in the schools, they don't allow Him in the Media. God will turn His back on people who hate him and reject Him. People say "I want to do it my way", God will leave them to fend for themselves if they don't want him.
    There is such a thing as the Devil, if you do not walk with God, the devil will walk with you and he'll turn on you in the end.

    An othrer thing I want to clear up....I've heard people talk about "murders, rapes, deaths, terrorist attacks, natural disasters and man made disasters etc etc...." that are done in the name of god. Anyone that does this in the name of the true God is not a true follower of the true God. The people that do terrorist attacks follow another god or the devil as well as the other things mentioned. When I talk about the God that the Christians follow, I'm talking about the one true God not Mohammad or Budda or the millions of other false gods in the world.

    Hitler was an Atheist and he killed millions of people. Don't most athiests believe in decreasing the human population also having low regard for human life???
     
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    clinton Well-Known Member

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    #890
    do most of these people believe in God, if so than their not doing God's will. If they reject God than why should He protect them from things that go on in the world? People are too selfish, they think they can reject God, but when they ask "if there is a God", they wonder why He could let things happen to them. Do you know why God lets things happen to people??? It's because they don't allow Him in the schools, they don't allow Him in the Media. God will turn His back on people who hate him and reject Him. People say "I want to do it my way", God will leave them to fend for themselves if they don't want him.
    There is such a thing as the Devil, if you do not walk with God, the devil will walk with you and he'll turn on you in the end.

    An othrer thing I want to clear up....I've heard people talk about "murders, rapes, deaths, terrorist attacks, natural disasters and man made disasters etc etc...." that are done in the name of god. Anyone that does this in the name of the true God is not a true follower of the true God. The people that do terrorist attacks follow another god or the devil as well as the other things mentioned. When I talk about the God that the Christians follow, I'm talking about the one true God not Mohammad or Budda or the millions of other false gods in the world.

    Hitler was an Atheist and he killed millions of people. Why should you be an atheist, look at the examples these people leave.
     
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    #891
    Are people to much gods to know their place? Is it so far beyond you that humans may have to submit to God???

    Tell me, what am I missing out on if I don't believe in evolution since we're all going end up rotting under the ground anyways in the evolutionist point of view??? Also what does it matter what I believe if I'm not going to exist after death?
     
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    #892
    You do not have the right to call any religion as false. So mind your language.

    God created man, and gave him free will. God does not do all things. God does not create disasters or wars. It is all nature, all free will.

    God has power over all things. But God does not interfere in the world. It is up to the humans to make this world a better place to live in.

    To guide people, God has sent his messengers from time to time, in the form of Adam, Moses, Solomon, Jesus and Muhammad (PBUH) and many other messengers. It is our duty to follow the rules of God. Because in the end, we are all humans, created by God, decedents of Prophet Adam and Eve.
     
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    #893
    Hey dude, correct me if I'm wrong here but you can't claim that ALL religions are true. They can't ALL be right especially when they have teachings that contradict each other. The simple fact you choose your religion over others means that you reject other religions because they are....??? What's the word I'm looking for?

    So I think as a follower of a particular religion it follows that you automatically consider all other religions false.
     
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    #894
    Sounds like interference to me, sorry i do not believe in free will in the lost, only in the saved, The lost do the will of satan. I believe God has total control. He is Love and he is wrath. He is a God of war and a God of love.
     
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    #895
    The worst genocide in history was when the Christians killed every single person in the city of Jeruslam after they broke the siege during the Cursades, do you know that it was ALL back by the church? They try to clout history and religion when in fact religion has killed more people then hilter or stalin did combined 100 fold.

    Again, this is my opinion, there isn't one standing theory on divine creation with creditable evidence, you can't deny it, your evidence is "faith".
     
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    #896
    Hitler was not an atheist....

    The truth.


    Unfortunately, your crackpot beliefs affect others that don't believe in a negative way. Obviously this isn't true in all cases, but after reading your posts I can see that it is in your's.

    Everyone has the right to call any religion false.
     
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    #897
    I pretty much agreed with everything you said in my last post. The only thing is that there are some false religions, there are so many different beliefs and everyone can't be right...

     
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    #898
    Just faith, huh? Are you kidding, define fact then. The bible is full of eye witness accounts, the bible has never been proven to be false, quite the opposite actually, every day archaeologist uncover biblical towns and ruins of biblical places. Which supports the bibles validity. The bible mentions many scientific facts, that were known in the bible far before science ever figured it out, i have posted it before and will post it again if needed. The bible is 100% scientifically correct about many many things, i will admit some things are not completely clear, but its pretty darn close. The bible has never ever been proven wrong, how can you deny something with such a record. You can use scientific theories which are based on unproven and unknown variables, and mere guesses, but you cant trust the one book thats stands firm on creation, and cant be proven wrong.
     
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    Well for Islam, (I'm a Muslim), it doesn't deny evolution completely, it says there is both "Creation" & "Evolution", but it denies that Humans are from Monkeys, and well even science today there is absolutely no proof that we were evolved from monkeys. I think its just that there are a lot of similar elements in us and monkeys, but you can't just say we evolved from them, I mean there are mammals besides us aswell, and they obviously aren't humans :p, animals do many things that aren't far from what humans do but you can't classify them as being human beings just because they have similar features or functions.

    "There is no DNA research pointing to a connection between apes and humans as was supposed by the scientists and those who had financed them over the years. In fact, the barnyard pig is closer to humans in many aspects, than a monkey or a gorilla. Consider the fact, doctors use the skin from pigs to replace needed tissue on burn victims and the famous movie actor, John Wayne had a pig's heart valve installed in his own heart in a 1977 operation to save his life. It worked, too - until his smoking caused him to die of cancer."

    Anyway before judging religion, look into other religions, do your research and you will be surprised, I'm a Muslim but not that religious, I learned lots about Islam on Ramadan which was in Oct, learned so much, I had no idea Islam was compatible with science, anyway just my thoughts.

    I'm gonna learn more, and see how it goes.. :)
     
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    #900
    The bible has contraindications, simple mathematical mistakes, and mistakes in science aswell. I can give you a youtube url that talks about it or google it.
     
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