Duplicate content? same linked pages

Discussion in 'Google' started by cpmfast, Nov 13, 2007.

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    If I build multiple sites with different homepage (index) but use many of the tabbed pages the same content will it hurt SE results on homepage? or SE results for site?
     
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  2. stormrage10

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    google is penalizing duplicate contents in terms of serps
    i dont know if i am right here (hope you guys could correct me) since i am just a newbie in this field, if you have
    www.website.com and website.com adn website.com is not redirecting to www.website.com G will consider it as a duplicate content.

    your saying that you creating different sites but has the same content. i think Google will penalize it on the serps of the site. one good example here is you have 100 blog sites and on the site you have 100 same articles. i think Google doesnt want it thats why the best way in article submission is you provide different contents for the articles..

     
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  3. cpmfast

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    I am not creating duplicate sites, I am wondering if same tab pages will negatively affect homepage.
     
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    Hmmmmm

    Let me do a little research and I'll come back to you with my answer!

    I'm new to this SEO thing so it can be quite confusing...

    Please dont ge mad if I cant find in answer eh? haha

    Mark:D
     
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    if you have duplicate content even in your same website internal pages then also Google can place that pages in supplemental index. so if you have a same content on other websites then obviously there is a chances that Google can place your pages in supplemental index.
     
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    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    No. But only one copy of those duplicate pages will be indexed so you're basically wasting your time. You are much farther ahead by simply parking the other domains and redirecting them to the primary site.

    Setting up the multiple sites may have a negative effect if they are seen as doorway pages and that might result in some sort of pemalty.

    The only good reasons for having multiple domain names is (1) for regional Googles, in which case you definitely do NOT want duplicate pages; or (2) to cover alternate URLs which might be typed in by returning visitors (e.g., yourdomain.com, your-domain,com, yourdomain.ca, yourdomain.net, etc., in which case you pick the one you like and park and redirect all the rest.

    There is a lot of mythology and misinformation about duplicate content, including in this thread:

    Google does NOT "penalize" duplicate content. It filters duplicate content so that only one copy, usually the oldest, is indexed. The easiest way to ensure that Google chooses the right page, i.e., the one you want to be indexed, is to use the meta tag "noindex" on the duplicate pages and/or disallow indexing of the site via a robots.txt file.

    As far as I know, the other major search engines treat duplicate content the same way, except they don't seem to be as good at finding and filtering duplicate pages.

    Additionally, Google via Matt Cutts has said more than once that duplicate content is not the reason your page(s) are in the supplemental index. The primary criterion for a supplemental listing is PageRank:

    Google Hell?
    By Matt Cutts
    Tue, May 1 2007

     
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    thanks guys that is great information you provided
     
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    #9
    great information
     
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    thanks minstrel! i thought we are being penalized coz our serps went down drastically.
     
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    #11
    Minstrel is spot on in every point, however this one:

    It's usually the page with the highest authority that will rank regardless of age. Also both pages can rank #1 for different terms depending on the anchor text applied to them.

    An example is This Google query. The number #1 is me (Tareeinternet) and i scraped #2's page (Martialarm), both text and design about 8 weeks ago. His page was PR3 at the time and over a year old.

    So as you can see, both versions of the document are indexed ranking #1 and #2 and mine went PR4 last update and his stayed at PR3 so Pagerank wasn't effected by the duplication.

    However for This query the original is ranking #1 and i'm #3 due to the anchor texts pointing at each article. Various searches for pieces of text will result in one or the other coming up first, depending on the anchor pointing to the pages Google will deem one or the other more relevant to the specific query.
     
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    I think there is maximal count for search engine server to calculate and for you to duplicate.

    Enough is good

    Isn't it

    :D
     
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    This may be a stupid question, but:

    If I have two domains a.com and b.com, of which b.com is parked and redirecting to a.com, should I also submit b.com to google?

    In hind-sight getting b.com was rather stupid, but I have it and it's paid for a year so might as well leverage it in any way possible...
     
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  14. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    1. No, don't submit it to Google. Just forward the parked domain to the active domain.

    2. No, it's not necessarily stupid. I do this for clients when I can: Purchase businessname.com and business-name.com. Let the client choose which s/he prefers as the active domain. Park and forward the other domain to the active domain.
     
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    Totally agree.

    This is also a sound business decision. It stops competitors buying a very similar name.

    With our main site we have registered tons of variants on the name and TLD including misspellings and hyphenated variants.

    All the variants are redirected to the chosen live domain.

    If you are serious about your business you must protect your brand
     
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    #16
    excellent information =D
    thanks for the inputs.
     
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    google is penalizing duplicate content ;-(
     
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    Google filters duplicate documents, where do people come up with this penalty idea?
     
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    wont get any duplicate content problem as u use smme navigation content if yr product business is different. ya !! it will be take some time for Well KW ranking & doing some other facilities from google.
     
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  20. minstrel

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    Annoying, isn't it?

    But, like much of the misinformation and superstitious thinking that floats around Google in particular, the myth of "duplicate content penalties" gets repeated so many times on so many forums that it becomes embedded in the fabric of the monitor and people begin to believe it must be true.
     
    minstrel, Nov 21, 2007 IP