Problem to approved in DMOZ

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by superds, Nov 15, 2007.

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  1. #1
    Hi there,

    I've posted my website http://www.superdiscountshop.com in DMOZ many times but it is not approved. I was submitted full form with related information but site rejected to include in DMOZ. Someone here to suggest me how do i include my site in DMOZ.

    Thanks forehead.
     
    superds, Nov 15, 2007 IP
  2. crowbar

    crowbar Peon

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    #2
    No one can "get" you listed, and you were instructed to only submit your site suggestion once to the most specific category you could find, so submitting multiple times would be considered spamming the Directory, please stop. You could be banned for that.

    These are the type of sites the Directory doesn't list:
    http://www.dmoz.org/guidelines/include.html#notinclude

    Most site suggestions that haven't been listed yet, just haven't been reviewed yet, and there is no way to predict when an editor might review it, just be patient and promote your site in other ways, :).
     
    crowbar, Nov 15, 2007 IP
  3. Stax_Daniel

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    #3
    unless you use gworlds advice, DMOZ is pretty much a fire and forget directory...it could take months (or years) to get accepted...but submitting your application many times will probably just get you banned
     
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    #4
    Or you could get listed the next day, or never. :) I've done both.

    Offering to pay an editor is sure to get you special attention, like being banned.

    Try not to listen to advice by non editors, it's usually incorrect, :)
     
    crowbar, Nov 15, 2007 IP
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    #5
    DMOZ is extremely picky about format. Follow the instructions TO THE LETTER. Study ads that have been approved. You'll be able to get in.
     
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    It does help if you can try to write an ODP compliant description and correct title, it makes it stand out, and when we spot one like that it's very likely we'll go for it like fish to the bait, and take a look at it. I know I appreciate it a lot when I see someone has at least tried. :)

    On the other hand, when I see a submitted site suggestion that's nothing but a list of keywords in both the title and description, or a bunch of sales hype, "We're the best!" garbage, my eyes glaze over and I move on to the next site suggestion and leave that one sitting there.

    Good advice, Frankly Scarlett. Looking at existing descriptions in the category and reading:
    http://www.dmoz.org/guidelines/describing.html

    will give you a good idea of what we'd like. We don't expect perfection, rewriting titles/descriptions is our job, but trying is very appreciated. It won't guarantee you a listing, but it might get you looked at first. :D
     
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  7. Stax_Daniel

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    that's a bit ego-intensive there isn't it?...there are plenty of people that are capable of giving advice about DMOZ other than the editors...
     
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    Of course, but correct information is what the OP was looking for, ego doesn't have anything to do with providing accurate information, and just a wild guess, but I think a current editor might be a little more qualified to give that, ;). Gworld isn't really known for being accurate.
     
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    though there isn't really a way for someone to prove they are an editor (or is there?...i'm not sure on that)...
     
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    Yes, there is:
    http://www.dmoz.org/profiles/crowbar.html

    But, after further thought, I apologize for my comment. Nothing you said was inaccurate, and many people do have correct information, you're right, :).
     
    crowbar, Nov 15, 2007 IP
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    thanks for that link...wasn't aware editors had profiles...

    but anyway, that would still be easy for someone to say they were you :)

    that reminds me...i need to go finish my application :D
     
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    #12
    They could say that, but other editors can confirm if someone is an editor, and editors usually know a great deal about the Directory that a non editor would not know, with the possible exception of ex-editors.

    Good luck to you, :D.
     
    crowbar, Nov 15, 2007 IP
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    #13
    I don't think it has been rejected, proably in a Q waiting to be reviewed. Re-submissions just put you to the bottom of the Q. Shopping is one of the most heavily subscribed categories and a glance at your site suggests it is mostly a link farm and I don't usually edit in shopping, but I don't think it will be a top priority.
     
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    #14
    Its tried in some forums and the way is to alter a list and then allow an admin or some such to see that the site has altered.

    I personally don't care if people believe me that I am an editor or not.
     
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    #15
    Many editors are prone to giving shiny happy answers when sometimes there are dirty little secrets. When a non-editor gives one of many possibilities an editor will often follow that up with ...

    Gworld does exaggerate, but then DMOZ listings do fall under SEO work and are well within the guidelines of the ODP (so long as the site is up to par with the rest of the guidelines). The line between bribe and paid is a very thin one, crossed and a site (or editor) will be banned.

    And as for your list of sites not to include (your first reply), that list is only partial at best. The interpretation of the the guidelines can vary greatly between Editors.

    I'm not trying to shine you in a bad light, just stating that an editors comments can be as biased as a non-editor. The difference is where that bias is...
     
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    Editors do have a lot of discretion, which is why they are called Guidelines (something we work within) and not Rules, which tend to be more ridged with no human factor that might provide an opportunity for using good judgement.

    I think it was recognized that not every situation will be a black or white one, and because the Directory is constantly growing, shrinking, and changing in certain areas, and the editing community discusses and forms a concensus in not only editing matters, but the structure work of the categories, there needed to be the flexibility to make decisions.

    I've apologized for that comment, I was wrong to say it, but I was thinking of certain trolling that has gone on in here in the past. I certainly hope that some of the things I've tried to explain here, have allowed readers to become a little more informed about the Directory, and from some of the postings I've seen, I'm happy to say that I think some of it is getting through, so it was an unfair comment, and I was rightfully called on it. :)
     
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    #17
    Although I don't know Anonymously's editor name and haven't asked, I can confirm that he is a current editor from something very minor that he said, about a specific situation, that only a current editor would have access to.

    There's no question in my mind that he's a current editor. Remaining incognito is most likely more of a safety issue, and gives him a little more freedom in his replies, that he might not have otherwise.

    Many editors prefer to remain incognito in outside forums because we walk a bit of a tightrope in maintaining the confidentiality clause we agreed to, and many editors probably like the freedom to speak freely. (That's just my guess, there's probably several other legitimate reasons)
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    They are not guideline, they are LOOPHOLES that can justify listing of any kind of BS page as long as proper editors get paid for it in one way or another. :rolleyes:
     
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    #19
    gworld is this how you operate your various, self confessed, editor log-ins
    they are LOOPHOLES that can justify listing of any kind of BS page as long as proper editors get paid for it in one way or another
    What was the most you got paid for listing a site. I bet she dare not tell us that.
     
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    #20
    When one has no real information to share, one can only try to trash the thread for others.
     
    crowbar, Nov 16, 2007 IP
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