Hi everyone, I've a question regarding link building. It goes like that: I've bought a 8 years old domain for $5,000. I uploaded all the content needed and started to get and acquire backlinks. about 20 blog posts, some articles, few sitewides, few high PR and DP sig links. The latter is the problem at the moment - the DP sig links. I've purchased the links from someone with 3000 posts, which means I'll have 3000 backlinks or so. New websites should not have hundred of thousand of links on the very beginning. Simpley because it will get banned, and we don't want that do we? I didn't get too many links, but 3000 links from a website is keeping me quite restless. I'm not so sure that the 3000 DP links was a smart move. So, my question goes like this: If I get a lot of links (3000) from one website, how does Google treat them: 1) Like 3000 new links to the website? (which is very dangerous for a new website) 2) Like 1 link from many pages? (better for me and less dangerous) 3) Devaluating them because it's all from the same website? (I can live with that...) I'm afraid the Google will ban me for manipulations.. Refering to the more experienced. Thanks a lot! Best, K
I'd stay away from sitewide links if I were you. I pushed a 10 year old domain into the supplemental index because of 1 sitewide link. Fortunately, SE traffic is not needed for my domain since it is just parked and has a lot of type in traffic (made $8 from it yesterday). If the domain you had was idle and not generating backlinks, one large sitewide link is the only trigger needed to get you to the same spot as me. Take your time building links. Once you have a solid base of links 500+ (real links not sitewides), then you can start kicking your link building into overdrive.
No problem. Just an FYI. It took about one week for my domain to get kicked to the supplemental after the sitewide link. I'm pretty sure Google's algo takes into account that backlinks can grow exponentially over time. Meaning once you have a solid base of links, others will see those links and naturally link to you as well. That's why I say once you have a solid base of links, you can double your efforts for a while, then triple them, etc. It works well doing it that way with my other sites. Good luck on your new site
3/1 - Devaluating them because is very dangerous for a new website I think this is the answer for my question too ! I told you when i removed all forum links my proxy site was back , my site is 3 months old soon, i have 128 backlinks but the ranking is decreasing every day ! this must be my reason ! too many in short time 30 in 1 day for example...
is just my opinion , Yahoo eat evey backlink , is like food for this search engine ... but Google don't like this in short time
It wont have much effect good or bad, i wouldnt be concerned about it. Think of it this way, if it harmed you in any way every time a competitor started up i could link to them in my sig and knock them out. Not going to happen.
Hmm... That could be true.. But no one really does that.. and no one really knows about a new competitor.. I still believe that strong linking on the beginning could be somehow dangerous..
Yes, there will be numerous perspectives on this. But I've seen the effect firsthand, and IMO it's not worth it. In the SEO community we talk about natural linking practices. We vary the anchor text, listing details, etc. To go from 10 backlinks to 2000 in a week is not natural. The whole idea is to stay under the radar by not raising any red flags, especially for new sites.
I find the older my sites the easier it is to add backlinks aggressively without a problem. Still, I make sure to not over do it. Steady as she goes is best...
Does anyone know whether an 8 years old domain will get into the sendbox like everyone else if it wasn't a real website before? Or will it have special privileges?
You're kind of screwed now, maybe, because that many sig links to a new site *probably will* be seen as a no-no. But removing them might be even worse! What would it look like if you had 3,000 right off the bat, then those disappeared? Mind you, this is all speculation and none of us really quite knows what will work. BTW: 30 links a day is NOT too many.
It won't hurt the site, i've got a 250,000 page forum and a 60,000 page article site and i often place sitewide links on these to new domains and get them ranking fast. For a start, Google won't instantly see it as 310,000 links because it would take months for all these pages to be crawled and the link to be picked up. The worst that will happen is Google will not value the links.
So based on sweetfunny's example, in fact the sitewide links have good effect on new sites, ie getting SE crawlers to index your pages, and nothing to worry about link spams. I've also seen new domains being pushed to PR5 within a couple of months by sitewide links on a couple of relevant active PR5 forums. However getting into supplemntal index as mentioned in an earlier post is something I'm not sure. Is it because of duplicate content on the new site rather than because of the incoming links?