A Possible Anti-Bumping Solution

Discussion in 'Support & Feedback' started by TikTok, Nov 14, 2007.

  1. #1
    As the posts scroll by frantically on one of my several monitors, I watch for interesting content. But the screen is filled with so much "pm sent" offal, that often the relevant posts sink off the monitor before I can catch them. There are never any shortage of posts where members declare in public to everyone else that they have indeed sent the other member a private message. (thanks!)

    IBut i the threads in the Buy, Sell, Trade forum were automatically sorted by Thread Start Time, instead of Last Post Time, would this reduce or possibly eliminate these white bread, empty calorie posts?

    I would think that it would stop bumping altogether, or at least, I wouldn't see the bumps, or care about them if the threads remained buried where they were. Does Sitepoint sort their threads this way? (forgiving the stickies that is).

    If people really needed to see any new information on a thread, [sarcasm]you know the important stuff like "2 links sold already!" or "1 signature left"[/sarcasm], isn't that what the thread subscriptions are for???
     
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  2. GuyFromChicago

    GuyFromChicago Permanent Peon

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    #2
    I don't get it - wouldn't sorting thread by "start time" put all the multi year old threads on the first page?

    Everyone posting the "PM Sent" & other garbage bump posts gets an infraction.
     
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    ahkip Prominent Member

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    #3
    you can do LIFO

    Everyone posting the "PM Sent" & other garbage bump posts gets an infraction.[/quote]

    problem is, it only cost one point, and you thread will go back on top even you got infraction. I believe most seller doesn't care about getting infraction
     
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  4. TikTok

    TikTok Peon

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    #4
    If the threads are sorted by Thread Start Time: Descending, then they go from the newest to the oldest, and you would never have to see old threads unless you were hunting for something. And if the thread starter posts in that thread again, no one would see it except those interested or subscribed to the thread. He could bump all he wanted, and it wouldn't move the thread anywhere.

    Without restricting the way people read, they could still personalize their options and have the threads show up by newest post, but the rest of us would be free from seeing bumps.

    Also, I'm pretty certain the moderators have their hands full as it is with infractions...this could lighten the load.
     
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  5. AutumnBreeze

    AutumnBreeze Peon

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    #5
    Yeah a few forums use that and it works wonders :) They still try to *bump* them and it will show in new posts for a short while, but it keeps the forum clear of bumps.
     
    AutumnBreeze, Nov 14, 2007 IP
  6. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #6
    there is an art to bumping threads, if you are not artistic, then you're stuck with stick men and infractions.

    the real solution is to avoid hitting the "post reply" when you just want to bump your thread. add content to the thread ;)
     
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  7. Katy

    Katy Moderator Staff

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    #7
    You mean a system like on sitepoint? I believe this has been discussed before and the answer was no or something like that...
     
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  8. AutumnBreeze

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  9. inworx

    inworx Peon

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    #9
    You just can't stop K's of members. Thats the way DP reached 5 million posts and counting.

    If you find one, just report it. Don't complain.
     
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    indianseller Banned

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    #10
    problem is, it only cost one point, and you thread will go back on top even you got infraction. I believe most seller doesn't care about getting infraction[/QUOTE]

    THEY CARE AS THERE ID ARE AT RISK
     
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    tigermedia_ca Active Member

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    #11
    There's no solution that'll make everyone happy.
     
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    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    #12
    It’s a good idea. That’s what sitepoint marketplace uses and it works well. Im all for it:)
     
    mikey1090, Nov 16, 2007 IP
  13. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #13
    if you like sitepoint so much, stay there, you wont be missed here
     
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    #14
    You do it for 2 or 3 times and you get a big infraction - BAN :)
     
    Aragorn, Nov 16, 2007 IP
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    DomainMagnate Illustrious Member

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    #15
    That actually is not a good idea.
    Serious sales take time and people need to update the thread with high offers or new bins

    ~MG
     
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    #16
    That reminds me to start another one as last one i made is i think now like 50 pages deep :D:D. no one bid :(. Baaahhaaa. We need lesser threads to happen daily at b/s/t maybe limit total threads in a day to just 25, so if ur lucky u get to post , otherwise wait for next 24 hrs :D
     
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  17. TikTok

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    #17
    I didn't suggest that threads couldn't be updated. If you take the time to read what I wrote, I was explaining that the forums could show the posts by when they start, and not have them leap-frogging over each other to stay at the top.

    A proper sales thread can be updated, and those interested in that thread can view it or subscribe to it as they want without having to see it show up over and over again.
     
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    DomainMagnate Illustrious Member

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    #18
    TikTok, when you sell stuff online, what makes the sale/thread interesting is the price. Thus updating it is akin to starting a new sale and justifies getting the thread pushed up. This is a common and accepted sales technique which is used everywhere in online sales.
     
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  19. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #19
    its used in TV ads too :D

    oooh tesco have cheap beer on offer, brb :eek:
     
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    #20
    I like the system where a reply from anyone doesn't bumped the thread to the top.
     
    Blogsip, Nov 16, 2007 IP