Striking Stage Hands

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Mia, Nov 13, 2007.

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    Do you think that someone that makes $115,000.00 to do a job that requires the education of a 5th grader really needs to go on strike?

    When I first heard about the stage hand strike I thought perhaps this might be a group of people that have some legitimate gripes... Then I find out that they average stage hand makes over $115,000/year.....

    There are doctors that do not make that much. That is unbelievable. I cannot believe that someone in a profession that requires no education or formal training could possibly make this much many...

    If I were the employer, I would have fired them by now. That's insane.
     
    Mia, Nov 13, 2007 IP
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    Jeremy, I remember when the L.A. bus drivers went on strike, and I found out what they were making. (I forget, but when two who struck were telling me - over their wine and food at my place, I was floored and got furious). But then, isn't it the same everywhere in say, pro-sports? From that perspective, if your average gum-chewing outfielder is making his mint, then the owners are making their nut, too, to the tune of a boatload more. So it's all relative, as much as it screams "what the hell?" At least that's my perspective.
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    I agree, sports is the worst.. I stopped watching baseball all together after their strike... It was not till that Mcguire/Soso hitting streak that I started watching again.. It's sickening to me what people strike for now-a-days...

    I remember that air traffic controller strike in the 80's... Reagan did what everyone should do in that situation; fired them. No work, no job... That's how I roll.
     
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    i support the unions
    no matter how much these workers make the bosses make a lot more.
    also rememmber that new york is a lot more expensive than where you live
     
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    I feel this way as well, pizzaman. I may be pissed at the first impulse, because it seems like so much money. But the issue is only that the pie itself is a helluva lot larger, not who gets how much more of the pie in a zero sum game.
     
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    No worky... No pay...
     
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    on top of that the main object of the unions is job security
    when a house is in a million dollar range the salarie of these people is not that high
    may be mia would like to have some illegals working for him
    they are a lot cheaper
     
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    The main objective of a union was supposed to be to keep workers safe... Now it is a way to extort money. There are million dollar homes all around me, should the guy who cooks my fries make more than my physician?
     
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    unions are the same as corporations

    they exist to get as much as possible for their members
     
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    Very well said! Although there are plenty of professionals, especially for the public good, that do not make their worth to society, I think it is still ok to a point.

    It is still amazing that they get paid that much though. Maybe there's special talent that is not known to us, but $115,000? Wow!

    MMMmm, unlikely, but I get the point. Often it's not about the money though. They do the job because they get other rewards, including personal satisfaction at doing a good job or helping others. It used to be that professional athletes didn't get paid much, it was about playing the game, doing something they loved. Then money came into the picture. Now they seem like immature brats, asking how they can survive on $15M per year (I heard this from a local sports star!).

    Money really changes one's perspective.

    There's often more to the strike than meets the eye. I remember that strike too. They were striking because of the hours, stress, and organization issues. They were concerned about safety too. Often the management is so focused on the bottom line that they miss the important stuff, like customer satisfaction, safety, worker moral, etc. Again, there's more to it than just money.

    Although there are strikes that just seem to be extorting money, I think there are plenty of examples of just trying to get a fair wage for the work involved and the cost of living in the area. It can also, most importantly, be about getting the management's attention on an important issue, outside of the money.
     
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    i think average price of an appartment in nyc is more than one million not that there are some one million dollar house by you big diffrence
     
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    I can see you've never lived in or known anyone that lived in NYC.. Expensive, yes.. Million bucks for the average flat? No... My aunt lives in Greenwich and does not pay anywhere near that per year.
     
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    You said the average price for an apartment "is more than one million"... That link does not seem to support that claim... If my family was paying more than one million for an apartment in NYC, I'd be living there too, leeching off them.. ;)
     
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    the average price to buy a condo/apartment in Manhattan is over 1 million, I'm sure its not as much outside of Manhatten
     
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    i have a studio apartment in the city walk up which is the cheapest type and i can sell it for more than half a million. its my retirment plan
    if you want to buy a two bedroom which any family needs it gets very high may be even 2 or three million
    i rent my store 2000 sq feet for 25000 a month
    my brother was refused a million dollar offer on a small house in the suburb
    nice neighborhood but still, it went for mill two
     
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    homes outside of manhattan are all in the mill range also.but they are bigger than city apts
     
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    Yeah, I suppose $115,000 in NYC is considered middle income with those prices. Another reason not to live there, as far as I'm concerned. Then again, I probably couldn't find as good of pizza elsewhere!
     
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    Not everyone lives in the city... ;)
     
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    they work in the city.
    so what you are saying is that you feel that people that work in the city should commute to work for three hours a day.
    again as usuall you just don't get it
    the salary is reasonable for here
     
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