What problems have you had to date with Vista?

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  1. j_o

    j_o Well-Known Member

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    #181
    It is a very simple fix....but very annoying
     
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    #182
    As I said the polls are generally fixed by those who disagree. Take a general opinion of most shoppers and they like Vista. Plus you must also notice that most of those complaining are those upgrading. NOt those buying a new system with Vista preinstalled.

    What about the system is not ready for release. If you remember....how long did it take hackers to break into XP?
     
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  3. The General

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    #183
    They failed in the very concept of having a decent OS. I must say that, however long they had kept in Beta testing, it would still have been a horrible OS by it's very premise. However, I was merely pointing out that the length of time in Beta does not nesecarily determine the state of readiness.

    In the most part, yes. Restart manger: Never seen the difference; Moving drivers from kernel mode to user mode: Good idea; User Account Protection: Good idea but implemented so such a far-reaching way as to conteract the usefulness. WIM image format for deployment: So far, I haven't noticed it. Two way firewall: I already use a decent 3rd-part firewall. Superfetch: The performance hit you take for installing Vista easily outweighs this improvement. Receive window auto-tuning: Not noticable so far. GUI enhancements for productivity: No it doesn't in any major way. The "Sidebar" is of little use pratical use from what i've found and I seriously fail to see the productivity value of the "task-flip".

    Which, while a commendable effort, doesn't justify an arguement based on supremely improved security.

    It can be helpful, but it is severe overkill.

    Of course they would, but that isn't something which needs to be done every time you do anything beyond opening a word document, and shouldn't be the sole basis for claiming improved security.

    That is also a skewed statistic. It's the general opinion of shoppers and those buying brand new overpriced systems that they don't need who are the ones who see eye-candy as a major improvement. If you only use your computer to check your emails then I'm sure the differences between XP and Vista will pass you by.

    I don't currently remember, but I don't belive that Vista has faired much better.
     
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  4. worldman

    worldman Notable Member

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    #184
    How many of us are really just checking out emails. Just the fact that all the cell phones are upgrading to productivity apps and html browsers should tell you that the email-only-computer era is over.

    That's my point. I believe for XP it was within the first week or so. Vista it was the first month. For one of Mac's OS it was before the actual product was released. Hackers will always be hacking....at least Vista has enough protection to stand against most threats.
     
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  5. The General

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    #185
    Believe it or not, there are some people who do still only check their email and type letters. There are others who just play games, which still follows along the same line.

    I think Vista was vulnerable from the word go, most OSs are likely to be.
     
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    #186
    There is always an exception to the general rule. But the general rule is that era is over.
     
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  7. The General

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    #187
    There is still the class of people there, the human race doesn't change that much.
     
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    #188
    Out of 1K computer users only 20-50 use the computer just for email. Are you saying than that there is such a big difference we should take that in when building a new system?
     
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  9. The General

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    #189
    No, you've completely missed my point. It's those sorts of uses who only use the computer for email or for similar use that are the ones who don't notice the downgrade. If you buy the most overpriced piece of junk the salesman can sell you and then only do one thing at a time then you won't notice the difference. If you actually use it day-in, day-out for heavy usage then you'll notice the difference.
     
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    #190
    But even for checking email Vista is more streamlined. And since millions of users have Hotmail and now .live upgrading is actually better. Remember when checking email you still have to open attachments, view photos and sometimes download them....upgrade is good in that area.
     
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  11. The General

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    #191
    Not really and, ftw, I use GMail as do a fair few other people. Hotmail is far from the only (or best) service. I can open attachment, view photos and download them on XP quite satisfactorily thank you,.
     
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    #192
    It still works with Gmail also. And Gmail is better than hotmail no doubt....not better than live mail though.
     
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  13. The General

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    #193
    I don't see any features in Vista which aid in my use of Gmail.
     
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    #194
    Well i prefer ubuntu
     
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    #195
    My buddy's Vista crashed last night lol..almost everyone I know has now downgraded to XP after a terrible experience with Vista's BS.
     
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    #196
    Well it depends on what you are doing. If you want to get the latest info on your mail box Vista does that. Of course you can do that on XP with the Gmail notifier but it uses up precious memory space.

    Its not the revolutionary ideas that really makes an OS great. Its integration and productivity.
     
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  17. The General

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    #197
    But I still need GTalk to use Google Talk, so it doesn't help that much.

    I agree that it's the little things that make you more productive which are what makes a good OS, it's a shame that those are overwhelmed by the flaws.
     
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    #198
    Well lets see what the service pack does. I remember when I first installed XP six years ago. All programs and drivers went dead. I had to go back to 98 the following week. A few months later though the problems were fixed and I was happy with it. I'm betting SP1 will fix most of the problems with Vista.....
     
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    #199
    You can't fix fundamental flaws with the way you designed the OS, unless an XP theme was included. The only thing I have hope of it that SP1 will, at least, make it slightly more stable and compatible.
     
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    #200
    The only thing that I notice people complaining about (that is legitimate) is the slowness of the OS and driver problems. No valid complaints have been made in regard to security and OS design.
     
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