What problems have you had to date with Vista?

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  1. thanassissis

    thanassissis Peon

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    #161
    My pc crashes all the time with Vista
     
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  2. j_o

    j_o Well-Known Member

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    #162
    This is very true we do expect everything new to be perfect but...what can you do it doesnt stop them from continually realeasing a product that isnt ready
     
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  3. worldman

    worldman Notable Member

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    #163
    I agree. So I am not against you guys voicing your opinions because that means next OS Microsoft will have some new pointers.

    But just because so many people are saying they do not like Vista does not mean that is the popular opinion. Its just like liberals are generally more vocal than conservatives. Mac users more vocal than Windows users and so on.
     
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  4. j_o

    j_o Well-Known Member

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    #164
    this is true...but people complain whats new
     
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  5. The General

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    #165
    Microsoft neither listens nor cares about us.
     
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  6. scribby

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    #166
    Only problem was not being able to use a shared lexmark printer, I'm sure it would be an easy fix if I went searching for the correct drivers however.

    Overall Vista has been fine, I didn't run an antivirus for a few months with Vista and I never got a virus. I also run it on a 2Ghz, 767MB, 64MB Graphics machine which runs fine and overall is faster than XP when you disable a few services and disable UAC.

    Sure Linux is faster and all, and I can use it quite easily. But most work that I do requires me to use a Windows machine. But I am thinking of getting a Mac sometime next year so I will see how things go.
     
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  7. worldman

    worldman Notable Member

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    #167
    Microsoft cares for its customers meaning they know if they don't give them what they want they will find another product....in this case their incompetent rival Apple. Basically that's how most companies work and many nonprofit companies operate the same way.
     
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  8. The General

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    #168
    No they don't. They care about making as much money as possible by shoving their products onto us before they're ready. Does a company that cares about it's customers force software onto them with breaks a product that they bought legitimately? Do they deliberately ingrave their products into each other to prevent you only using one of them?
     
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    worldman Notable Member

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    #169
    Do you know that it costs Microsoft millions of dollars every year to support OS they do not make. With that said if I were Microsoft and I knew each year I am putting millions of dollars into an OS I no longer make why not try and have people convert?
     
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  10. The General

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    #170
    Then why not sell us the OS we want? If you aren't prepared to provide the support we paid for then why sell it to us? Again, nice job in ignoring the points you can't answer.
     
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  11. scribby

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    #171
    This topic has gone off in a tangent.

    Vista was beta tested for quite some time, so saying they released a product that wasn't ready is completely wrong.

    When XP was release I faced pretty much the same problems I did with Vista as in drivers not yet being released and so forth.
    But I never criticized them of releasing it too early, if anything the hardware companies should have developed drivers needed before the release date.
     
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  12. scribby

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    #172
    http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/newsroom/winxp/VistaBeta1FS.mspx
    http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,121990-page,1/article.html
     
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  13. scribby

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    #173
    This is why Microsoft invented UAC.
    As an advanced PC user I would never click anything like that, however most users would and thats where the problem lies.

    Windows allows you to run a file and install it like that, but its the same with Linux or Mac, if you download a file even if its accidentally and click it (aka give it permission to do whatever) then if its malicious your going to have problems.
     
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    #174
    No General. The majority of people think Vista is good. In fact since Vista released the holiday sales of computers have increased. Most people change their computers every three to five years. So releaseing an OS in 5 years is perfectly fine. If you are Apple which releases 3 OS in two years than you got a problem.
     
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  15. The General

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    #175
    Being beta tested doesn't make the product ready. I could make a really crappy OS with 5 million bugs, release it for beta testing for 5 years and then start selling it. The long period wouldn't magically make it a good OS?

    Because XP was actually an improvement!

    They didn't.

    So they annoy the hell out of everyone else for the sake of hand-holding. That's not what i'd call an advantage. Better security shouldn't mean "We make it slightly more difficult for you to do things that you wouldn't have done anyway".

    Exactly, meaning asking the user whether or not they want to authorise the installation isn't really "better security".

    The polls say differently. The increase in holiday sales of computers is not due to any assessment of Vista's quality. The releasing an OS in 5 years is perfectly fine, releasing an Os that isn't ready isn't.
     
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  16. scribby

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    #176
    Major Vista bashing going on here...
    What I'm trying to say is at least they tried to provide us with what they thought would be a mostly bug free operating system by having it beta tested by thousands even millions of people. Its not like they took it out of production and put it up for sale straight away.

    So your telling me over all the years it took to develop Vista there was no improvements made? I am using Vista and I have yet to have a system crash causing me to restart the computer, I am able to keep the computer running for days on end without it randomly crashing like it did before.
    Have a look here for some Vista improvements..
    http://www.pcuser.com.au/pcuser/hs2.nsf/lookup+1/6AD2E902084BD04ACA25712B00231BE6
    There's more to Vista than just eye candy.

    Why then? I believe its to stop the majority of users out there that get e-mails saying they have inherited a few million and all they have to do is open the attachment. Which just happens to be a Virus or Trojan.

    In some ways it is an advantage as you know if a file is overwriting a system file or altering a system file and you will get a notification verifying it is in fact allowed to do so. I personally have it disabled because it annoys the hell out of me, but I'm sure there are some users out there that don't mind it.

    I'm pretty sure if you click an .exe file in an e-mail and you are greeted with a box telling you the file is altering system files would you like to proceed or deny most users will take the 2 seconds to read it and click deny.

    Its not a perfect system for stopping such things, but its a start and I'm sure they will better it when the service pack is released.
     
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    #177
    After reading thi thread, I've come to the conclusion that the biggest problem with Vista is the end user. ;)
     
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  18. etali

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    #178
    I'm finding for day to day stuff Vista is quite nice - performs better tha XP actually, but I'm running 64 bit vista, I only had 32bit XP, so that probably explains the performance increase.

    For games though, ugh - there are so many games that don't get on with Vista right now - sure, you can fix it all with workarounds, but at least things run out of the box on XP.
     
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  19. j_o

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    #179
    That is a major downfall that so many games dont run on vista along with a million other programs
     
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  20. mark123456

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    #180
    If you are having a problem with .docx just save your files in as compatible with Word 2003 (.doc extension). BTW this has nothing to with Vista but with Word 07; I ran into this problem running Vista as well until I realized that Microsoft changed the file extension on everyone:(
     
    mark123456, Nov 9, 2007 IP