Thats rich... since you wrote 'he is not saying he is a man', when it starts the sentence, 'God is not a man,'. The main idea is that God is not a man nor a phrophet to need to repent, jesus wouldnt then call himself a prophet hundreds of times if he was God. Doesnt matter if the point was to tell the people God doesnt lie/need to repent. In that very same sentence he also told us, GOD is not a man, neither the SON of MAN. Just because he told us both things, doesnt cancel out the other thing. Debunked: I dont think you really care about the bible, ive heard you say 'I dont have a religion', if anyones lying its you.
My friend your eyes are really closed tight on this one. That statement is not about god being man. It would be like me saying the following: I am not a man that would hit a woman. Now i ask you am i a man? what Does that staement say
It means you wouldn't hit a woman but your quote is completely different. Example: I think anyone can see that i am not french or chinese from the above statement.
Ok, then tell me what my religion is.... a religion being a man made set of rules and laws. I read the Bible and I know Jesus. I try to always do as He tells me to. Doesn't sound like a religion to me. I think one thing you will find with the world's religions - they have one thing in common - bettering yourself in order to get to heaven (or some other level of achievement) I looked at the ten commandments and realized I failed. If you break one of the commandments you have broken the WHOLE law. You have proven over and over you lie, so you see how this fits you too. Jesus said "he who has no sin can throw the first stone" (paraphrased)
Well the story of the adulterous woman didn't exist any original manuscripts. Watch this: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v1401540kmr5NmWT Bart D. Ehrman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_D._Ehrman As for religion, your kinda just playing word games their, do you get off calling people liars? I have already said Muslims believe in the original uncorrupted bible which no longer exists, even in the current bible, the doctrine of the trinity is on thin ice. Good luck to you but if you think i am against christians, you really are mistaken, i just respond to what people say, i dont just attack. ---------------- Quran 3:64 2:113
But you have yet to show anything that is not correct in the Bible or proof it was corrupted. Just because you repeat what your imams tell you, it doesn't make it true. Did you ever think to investigate. Really investigate, not just take someone's word for it, but look up the oldest and compare to the newest and see what is wrong - oh who am I joking, you don't desire to learn the truth, you already proved that. Hmmm, what's next, maybe you need to copy some more verses out of context....
This is interesting. The Pope is asking the Saudis why it is illegal to build a church in Saudi Arabia when muslims are permitted to build mosques in Europe? There are over two million christians working in Saudi mainly from countries like the Phillipines and India. The Saudis have just completed a 3 million dollar mosque in Rome and it is illegal for christians to worship in their country.
Thats a lie, they are allowed to worship but in the privacy of their own homes, im not surprised you blame Europe being secular on muslims. Most muslim countries actually have many chruches - did you know there are 15 million christians in eygpt. Coptic Orthodox Church of Egypt Debunked: lol i am repeating what your scholars are saying, they're probably lying too, everyone is wrong and a liar, except for you - now have a nice day.
If Muslims were treated like that they would be outraged. Why can't chrsitians build a church in Suadi Arabia when there are 2 million christian immigrants? In Egypt it is illegal for Muslims to convert to christianity and the religion is marked on the birth certificate. The fact is that Muslims are well treated by western countries and Christians are second class citizens in the Muslim world.
Yet on the same hand if you look at proteindudes continued threads and posts, yet you come in defending in this thread, I guess you're defending hatred and intollerance. I have no problem with an open discussion, this thread however was not started as an open discussion, it was an outright attack and attempt to start yet another religious fight thread by proteindude. Yet proteindude takes items out of context just as bad if not more. To the muslim quoting the bible to him it's not out of context at all, as a person on the side who is christian not muslim these so called out of context quotes dont' really look that out of context to me. Looks alot like twisting to make things 'in context' There is bad shit in both the bible and quaran, there is simply no denying it. The entire 'oh it's out of context' on every bad item is simply ridiculous. There is bad shit in all religions. Someone BTW asked me in Rep what I think of Islam. To be blunt, I think it is a bit odd, some of their customs, etc. That however does not bother me as I do not practice it, it's up to them to believe and practice how they feel fit. Just like any religion the good believers will use the religion for peace, the radicals will use it to spread hate. I see proteindude is the christian equivalent to a muslim terrorist, simply without the balls to do anything more than spread hate online. That is the only reason I am even in this thread, to me he is nothing more than a christian terrorist without the balls
Not one thing that God did was bad and not one thing Jesus did was bad. Now the people, that is a different story, they each did something wrong to prove their humanity and need for God's mercy. Show me something in the Bible that God or Jesus did wrong. (Please don't use the site that aceday does, it is full of lies and distortion by interpreting the verses they way they want them. I can point you to a site that debunks all of their fables.) And Yes, I do tend to get drawn in by someone lying about my beliefs, it is kind of hard not to. I will defend, even if he is lying about someone else. If it is tied into my beliefs it feels like a personal attack. I think you could agree with that. You want to clear the air if you feel someone is twisting your words or lying about something you believe.
For that I do not blame you, I hope you can also see why the muslims also get drawn in from the OP's threads and posts. Different religions do not go well together, especially the extremists on both sides.
So you agree that God and Jesus are two different? You see that's the difference between Christianity and Islam. We believe in ONE God and Jesus (PBUH) as His prophet.
islam IS an extremist religion. That's why some try to portray themselves as "moderates." If islam were peaceful, it wouldn't need religious leaders to pretend they are "moderates."
I honestly believe it's more to do with most muslim countries being so much further behind the christian nations. Look at what christian nations were like a few hundred years ago. I know several muslims, none of them are violent or extremist. If anything they are more friendly and docile than their christian counterparts.
I wonder if you ever read newspapers or history books. Or WHOOOPS, here's proteindude again who hates muslims says GRIM. By the way I don't hate muslims, just not a big fan of their religion. GRIM You proved yourself a defender of atheists, Islam, abortion and you still claim yourself to be a Christian. Oh yes and let's not forget that everytime proteindude says something here's GRIM with the preprogrammed response: "You just spread hate proteindude." Go ahead GRIM and continue making sure that no one can question Islam because according to GRIM to do that it's spreading hate.
Hey guys ! don't you think that you are arguing so much, about your own religon. Billions of people follow Islam and Millions of people follow teaching of Jesues. But these muslims also accept teachigns of Jesues, but they disagree with only one thing. Muslim says that there is only one god. whereas Christans don't agree with it. I think we should try to find out, exactly how many gods there are ? and the problem is solved.
You see GRIM: you hit the nail. "to me he is nothing more than a christian terrorist without the balls". That is YOUR opinion. I am not asking for anyone's sympathy because I believe facts speak better than anything. But the whole thing revolves around YOUR opinion. You talk a lot of crap GRIM when you claim you are a Christian and the sad part is some may believe you: "There is bad shit in both the bible and quaran". Is this how you refer to the word of God??? No reverence whatsoever? And what is your definition of a "christian terrorist"? I have never made it a secret that I am not a big fan of Islam. Yet, Muslims or Arabs or whatever you want to call them are just as precious in God's sight as you and me are. Or you may think I am not that precious or that I don't deserve God's love or mercy which it's fine. I don't think I deserve it either but nevertheless He also died for me. But you must remember the words of Jesus who said: "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven." Muslims and Christians do not worship the same God and they do not worship Jesus either. Their jesus is different from the Jesus of the Bible. The Muslims need to wake up and face the truth and not told lies by GRIM: "You dudes are ok, it's the Christian terrorists that you have to watch out for." And I think before you reply to me, you should repent of the despicable way in which you referred to the word of God. That is of course if you are a Christian, but based on your words and absence from church among others you are FAR from being one.
I think you need to wake-up - you dont know anything about the bible, your right we dont worship Jesus, a prophet and man who walked the earth, we worship his creator. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL that quote is more proof Jesus isn't God, he is saying people who worship him but not God (ie. yourself) shall not enter heaven. Father isnt literal - check the the Old testament....... Its the muslims who submit their will to God, that is what the word 'muslim', means. He was talking about the christians of today if anyone, (Matthew 7:21-23) i have seen you talking about end-time prophesies many times proteindude Why do you think Jesus would say 'I never knew you' ???.... Matthew 15:21-28