Ron Paul is the "unshakable foe of abortion." Ron Paul is pro-life, he believes no women should ever have an abortion, he believes life begins at the moment of conception. He has said and stated that rap victoms should not get abortions. In his credit (kinda) he introduced the Sanctity of Life Act, a bill that would have defined human life to begin at conception, and removed challenges to prohibitions on abortion from federal court jurisdiction. This means he believes if a woman is raped and becomes pregnant she should have the baby. Imagine your mother was raped, and she became pregnant by her attacker. Would you want someone running your country who believes your mom should have that baby? This is just a question, not an attack. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Ron_Paul#Abortion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctity_of_Life_Act
If the almighty (bruce) did not want to us to do abortions he would not invented hospitals for us. No i would not vote for people trying to get votes with the help of (bruce)
I am undecided on this. Is it even that important, comparing to other issues? At least Paul is not working to turn this country into a big concentration camp with barbed wire and armed socialists in charge I don't care about what candidates think about abortion, global warming, or Anna Kurnikova
it doesn't matter Paul's opinion, he's not making it a federal issue, he's leaving it up to the states. so it doesn't matter if he eats babies or rapes women when it comes to abortion lol
You care about ALL their opinions. Don't be a follower, be a leader. RP supporters have done a great "idol" job on him. Remember, hes a career politician, I don't see him waving his salary, AND he always voted in favor of the congress salary rasies while doing nothing for minimum wage.
He is entitled to believe the way he wants even if he disagrees with me. If he were president he still couldn't change that law, nor do we know that he would even want to.
What exactly is abortion? Is that where you kill an unborn baby or where a "doctor" does that for you?
This is untrue. Paul's delivered 4000+ babies. He knows a little bit about women's physiology and the growth of a fetus. What he has said, is that he has never dealt with a rape victim or a woman who couldn't bear a child because it was a risk to her health. He doesn't deny that these circumstances exist, but he does not agree that killing babies in the 3rd trimester is not murder, because as a doctor, if he harms a (not to be aborted) fetus, he is legally responsible for the life of the unborn, and can be charged as such. What he has also said is that it is an incredibly complicated issue, and one that deserves dialog and more participation by the people. That is why he wants to return it to the states, instead of the Federal government paying for it, or setting the policy for the entire nation. Impress me. Dig up some statistics on the total # of abortions, and then dig me up the statistics on the total # of rape abortions. I'd like to see some evidence that abortions with regards to rape are a substantial justification for the pro-abortion position. Dr. Paul isn't some zealot who is against contraception, he's against killing what could possibly be a living being in the womb of a mother. One analogy he made recently was, if the mother cannot kill her own born children, then why should she be able to kill her unborn child? And he didn't propose it as an absolute, but merely another perspective to consider. Personally, I think the unborn have rights. Once that heart starts beating, it's a person, perhaps not fully developed, but no less a person than someone with severe handicaps.
He's never voted for a pay raise. He's opted out of the Congressional Pension program. His office always returns a portion of it's budget to the Treasury each year. And yeah, he's done nothing for minimum wage. He doesn't believe in the government setting the poverty level.
Wow, I think we agree on something. As a father of six kids, I can agree with RP stance even politically, since constitutionally it should be placed on the states and the federal government is too involved in too many things.
We can agree on a lot of things I bet. We're both intelligent, opinionated people with a sense of morals and justice.
Actually, this is a good reason...a very good reason TO vote for Ron Paul. I'm very much against abortion, except in rare circumstances. Rape would be one of those. I also believe this is a state's right issue. I'm not opposed to the death penalty. I'd rather see more death penalty and less abortion. I hold my Grandson in my arms every day and I cannot fathom that someone would every want to kill their child. I never, in my life, would have imagined I could love something so much again. The absence of a heartbeat is death. The presence of a heartbeat is life. A baby's heart begins to beat at five weeks in the womb. That is life. What's ironic is, most democrats I've debated on this issue are very much pro-abortion, but are adamantly against the death penalty. I never have been able to understand this mentality. Kill the innocent baby, save the murdering rapist pedophile. There's not an ounce of rationality in that position.
I think the logical stance is to be anti death penalty and anti abortion, like Ron Paul. Paul's stance on the death penalty is one of very few things he's ever changed his opinion on in his career. If you can put such importance on life when it's just a few cells in a womb, not even discernable as a human, how could you ever possibly support state sanctioned killing of a fully grown adult? My personal belief is that whatever wrong a person has done, it is not our role as god, and particularly an entity as fallible as government, to decide who lives and who dies. Lock them up for life, let them suffer in a cell all their days, but never should we consider ourselves able to make the decision on ending another's life. People often quote the cost of imprisonment every year as a reason to support the death penalty; I could not accept that as valid, as I don't believe an economic factor should be decisive in one's fate. What people don't realize is the immense cost that the death penalty actually causes, in countless appeals. Also, studies have shown that innocent people have been sentenced to death in the past. While an innocent man going to jail for crimes he did not commit is despicable also, at least it's reversible. Once you give them the death cocktail, there's no turning around, no fixing mistakes by angry prosecutors, foolish juries, or tainted evidence. There are other reasons and I could go in depth, but overall there is clear reasons why no matter what a person's mortal crimes have been, we should not be the judgement of life and death.
Let me see if I get this right: are you equatting the life of an innocent baby with the life of a killer? Are they both equal to you?
Are you in a position to make a decision on which is more valuable? Moreover, even if you can decide which life is more valuable, are you in a position to decide to end either? Just as I laugh with GTech at the liberal pro choicers who hate the death penalty, I laugh heartily at those who fight so hard to save unborn life and at the same time fight to execute people who have done wrong. The most ironic part is most of these fighters are supporters of a religion that requires followers to repent for their sins and ask forgiveness from God. These people believe God is the all knowing being in the world, and that life and death are part of God's plan. And yet these same people want to put that almighty power in the hands of fallible humans. To add to this conversation, does anyone know the primary reason Ron Paul changed his death penalty views after so many years? He ultimately looked back at a justice system riddled with mistakes, at innocent people whose life on this earth was ended falsely, at cases where generally rich people get off, and poor people are sent to death, and he decided that he could not support liberty and at the same time support an irreversable punishment that history has shown has commonly been misused. He explains his views: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex-yp10yLvs