if you don't get it regarding why a church is important that is because you don't read the Bible. I am talking about Christianity here. You can say: "Isn't God.." "Doesn't God..." The answer is in the Bible. A bit like playing soccer. Best way to find out about the rules is by reading the rules manual.
well do enlightened me which part of the bible from the New Testament which say that going to the Church is as important as scoring goals in a football match? Actually football don't really have a manual we learn from playing it with our friends
Where did I say you have to score a goal? Did I say anything about scoring goals? What is a goal and how you score one? With your hand, with your foot? I may have to check the rules about soccer. I don't know that much about soccer. So for you to become a referree in soccer all you have to do is learn from playing with your friends?
Where did I say about becoming a referee? You said playing soccer or like we like to called it football. Well now for the enlightened me part, so which part of the New Testament that say church is important minus the scoring goals part?
Ahem, you still didn't give me the mighty quotes from the mightiest prophet of them all and instead started bagging the Bible. How can I get an answer from you? Should I start a thread about the Bible and THEN you will give me quotes about the Quran and the world's greatest prophet I'm confused But then again like you said: he misguides some.
This is taken from the Bible the book of Hebrews chapter 10 verses 24 to 26. Pay attention to verse 25. 24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: 25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching. 26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins In other words we are warned not to forget about going to church.
Well yeah, but it do not say one must assemble in a church for their prayers to be heard or to fulfill para 25? One can assemble in one house and pray together and still God counts that as Para 25 being fulfill! Para 25 could also be translated as not too forget each other and stay together as community in bad and good and the importance of being together before the end of times arrives!
Surah 109. The Disbelievers, Atheists A story about Jesus told by prophet Muhammad (pbuh) - Jesus and the Third Loaf :
I think that if you torture the grammar long enough it will confess to anything. Your prayers can be heard wherever you are. And yet the warning remains to NOT FORSAKE the gathering together which I agree with you in a sense does not mean church but gathering. Which in a sense means believers getting together. ACE: in all sincerity that post about Jesus is not making much sense to me. I think if there is a problem you should also provide a solution. Or perhaps the teaching of that story is that it's best not to lie? For those who are not Christians allow me to make the point that story is NOT from the Bible. And also, how did Mohamed get to know that story about Jesus? Was he there or was it revealed to to him in a dream?
Alright before I answer your main question on "Islam a Negative influence" May I ask, what are the examples of this "Negative Influence" in your own words? Since without knowing your definition of Negative Influence and what make you conclude that Islam is A Negative influence, I can't answer your question! Even though Aceday story is not quoted from the Bible, there is a moral which we can learn that is not to be greedy and share what we have.
Let's just say I wouldn't like my daughter to be treated the way a girl is treated under Islam. BTW I don't have a daughter, only boys. I am not trashing Ace's story, I just said I don't quite get the exact meaning or what exactly it's trying to show. Perhaps that we should not lie (something I agree with).
Since you don't have a daughter, than in what way don't you agree with the teachings with Islam with regards to the treatment of women?
Hey, I gave you an answer. Or are you just another Muslim who likes pestering me instead of providing answers to the questions asked
You have no idea how Islam treats women with nothing but respect, you just know what you see on the tv, i suggest you look into how the bible teaches to treat women. Look at how nuns dress, do you look upon them as oppressed? You probably love seeing half-naked women everywhere, or ones with clothes that could have been painted on, objectified like no tomorrow. if Islam is so bad to women tell me this, Why are most American converts to Islam (50k a year) women? AHAHAHA! I can bury you with Dreams from the bible, do i have to educate you about the chapter of 'revelations' in the bible? Muhammed (pbuh) never got such crazy dreams! This was told to him by Angel Gabriel, your bible contains many lies and no original manuscripts for it exist. You know your story of the adulterous woman, first to throw a stone has never committed a sin blah blah, well its PROOVEN to be a fabrication. You JUST cant compare with the bible!, maybe you think i am biased? Bart D. Ehrman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_D._Ehrman I challenge you to watch this, it as short interview and there are no muslims on it and tell me your current Bible is entirely from God, proteindude: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v1401540kmr5NmWT ---------- Please Dont ignore the video and change the subject!
well to be honest, I am a non-believer. Nah, since I am not a Muslim I too must know what you disagree on so that I can do my own research before I give you an opinion!
With all due respect you're talking crap now. Why does a woman have to cover her whole face and wear a burka and why not the man? Or, why can a man have 4 wives and the woman can only have one husband? Or why must the woman walk behind the man or not go in public by herself?
Polygamy exists everywhere, look at how many affairs/cheating there is here in america. This is the nature of man, Islam just regulated it. CHANGE THE SUBJECT AS USUAL Women cover for modesty, this was done in Christianity up untill the 1900's, nuns still do it, they are suppose to be pious, no one forces Muslim women to dress like this, it is a protection for them against the prying eyes of men. READ WHAT PAUL IS TELLING YOU. 1 CORINTHIANS 11:3-10 Maybe you need to wakeup brother. ISLAM: Women can talk in the mosque. (1 CORINTHIANS 14:34-35) Bart D. Ehrman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bart_D._Ehrman I challenge you to watch this, it as short interview and there are no muslims on it and tell me your current Bible is entirely from God, proteindude: http://www.veoh.com/videos/v1401540kmr5NmWT
Ok, point by point: 1) Where in Christianity it says a woman has to cover her FACE (not her head) 2) Why is it in ISLAM only the man can have 4 wives? The wife (woman) can only have one husband making it unfair to her 3) Why can't women drive cars in Saudy Arabia (the world's cradle of Islam)? 4) Why can't women compete in sports (Saudi Arabia, Iran, Qatar etc)?