lol!! ask your brother sb1234, how he said "majority is professing Christians. The amount of true christians is much smaller" so now, if you start to pick and choose, do you think I don't have a counter attack? Just read.
Going to church often does not make one correct about religion, or a better member of their religion. In fact to claim it does such as you do goes against most of what I ever was taught in church, in sunday school, anything for that matter when it came to religion. Even in church I was warned about people like you, who claim religion like you, IMHO not only from simple logic, from standard school, but also from my religious experience, people like you are hypocritical and dangerous. Leave Islam alone, it's not my religion, it's not yours, it however is the religion of MANY. Is it so difficult to accept the fact that they do not believe what you believe. They however are showing themselves to be far more tollerant than you, far more understanding, and far more knowledgable than you. You are the one who continues to attack their religion, yet you call yourself religious To the muslims of this forum, as I'm sure you are aware of, most christians are not fanatics like the few attacking your religion. Most accept and welcome you to practice the religion of your choice
I dont think you have kept up with the thread very well, proteindude has merely asked a few question, the attacks came from the other side, look on the first page, an innocent question led to attacks on christian scriptures, and jesus's diciples, paul, one of the holiest authors of the bible, being called a blasphemer. He did not start the attack. The question had nothing to do with the bible
I suggest you follow protein dudes previous threads and posts, not simply this thread.... ---edit Also give me a break, read his opening salvo, his opening post is more than a simple question.
I suggest GRIM admites that me and him are not exactly buddies. And as such GRIM is not always inclined to see my points but automatically disagree with what I say (most of the time). However, I still see some slight positive changes in GRIM but not enough to classify him a straight thinker. I am surprised how he tries to twist almost everything I say. I don't get it why you do that GRIM. I believe that fence sitting never leads to greatness. Now pay attention to GRIM's reply
No, he didn't, but God came to him in a flash of light, from that point he proclaimed Jesus, as Christ. This man once persecuted the church, why would he change his mind? Why make this up?
He is simply asking for Muslims to change his opinion on Islam. Its a challenge, not an attack...quit rolling your eyes at me, my kid does that and i hate it
Jesus had quite a few parables that were of great wisdom ex. Mat 13:3 And he spake to them many things in parables, saying, Behold, the sower went forth to sow; Mat 13:4 and as he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side, and the birds came and devoured them: Mat 13:5 and others fell upon the rocky places, where they had not much earth: and straightway they sprang up, because they had no deepness of earth: Mat 13:6 and when the sun was risen, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away. Mat 13:7 And others fell upon the thorns; and the thorns grew up and choked them: Mat 13:8 and others fell upon the good ground, and yielded fruit, some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty. Mat 13:9 He that hath ears, let him hear. Mat 13:10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? Mat 13:11 And he answered and said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. Mat 13:12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that which he hath.
Same thread my post #22 Ingersoll a well-known atheistic writer referring to Jesus: "With Renan, I believe Christ was the one perfect man. <Do unto others what you would that they should do unto you> is the perfection of religion and morality. It is the summum bonum. It was loftier than the teachings of Socrates, Plato, Mohammed, Moses or Confucius. It superseded the commandments that Moses claimed to have gotten from God, for with Christ's <do unto others> there could be no murder, lying, covetousness, or war"
I quoted them for you that the best you can do? and he talk to the sheep? do you know that bible (that know today) is not really exist until at least 300 years after jesus died? do you know what possibly happen in that 300 years? learn about council of nicea they are 300 christian priest who pretend to be editors of bible... the add the books they like to the bible, and burned that they don't like... quote from here even at the first council, they are debating if jesus is god or not. if jesus is god, why there are doubts among his followers? and if the first council of nicea is not enough... they create another council 1n year 364, council of laodicea where they again add another books the the bible as you know today and another council in year 397, council of cathage, and again they modified the bible by added another books. Then by protestant, they again changed the bible according they need. and what about this? or this question? how many time actually the bible is modified or changed? and don't forget that protestant and catholic have different kind of bible.
I disagree with crap, just so happens you post alot of it. 'Straight thinker' that's funny coming from you, considering on how many things I have proven you to be incorrect on. Facts when you attacked islam based countries for instance not having any christian churches I am no twister, nor a 'fence sitter' I have no problem attacking either side if a side is wrong. You have a habit of attacking muslims, you've proven it, you started this thread for such a purpose and masked your opening post just enough for like minded individuals to believe you are only asking a question. Being a loud mouth hypocrite never leads to greatness, nor should a trully religious person care for personal 'greatness'. I suggest you reread his opening post, his other threads and posts before coming to such a conclusion. I'll at anyone I damn well please
Sure dude You have "proven" whatever that may mean to you. And when I state facts such as there isn't one single church in Saudi Arabia that "proves" according to your logic that I "attack" Islam based countries. Just wondering, what is by your definition stating a fact and what is an attack? But since we're on the subject, do you care to enlighten me about the great positive teachings of Islam? How about you "prove" again how wrong I am and how I misinterpret this great religion.
I suggest you look back, it was not only Saudi Arabia Look back, find where the multiple times I proved you wrong and own up to it and I might give you a little respect. If not I'll find them tomorrow and quote them Your choice, admit to it or get OWNED yet again. -edit No that is not my logic, you used it in your hate filled posts against them I am not a spokesperson for the religion, you however don't understand it very well yet you love to hate it.
I was sick of waiting. You were going off on a tantrum, about Saudi Arabia having no churches, and according to you the UAE only having one. You were proven totally wrong here I guess you forgot about that one instance, do I need to quote more or will you own up to this one?
For anyone watching this thread: GRIM PROVED ME WRONG. I ADMIT IT. I missed his other post and yes there is more than one church in UAE. So I was wrong. from my past memories there was only one but this was confirmed not only by GRIM but also by some friends. Same link he provided also says: "For example, non-Muslims are permitted to worship but not to proselytize." Now, how many women can drive in Saudi Arabia (this is one country)? And also how many churches are allowed in this country? And how many women can take part in sports in Saudi Arabia (one country), Oman (another country) and Iran (another country). And now I am eagerly waiting GRIM's response for the great good that the Quran is responsible for. He's going to provide me with some great quotes from Islam's Holy Book, the Noble Quran. I am waiting GRIM to prove me wrong again. But don't forget first Saudi Arabia (churches wise) and the other three nations womens wise.
I don't get this, why is a Church or Mosque so important in a religion? I always thought that GOD is everywhere and a Church or a Mosque is just symbols of a religion. Does it make one a lesser Christian or Muslim if one do not pray in church? God listen to all his creatures not just in Churches or Mosque don't he/she/it? Believing in him/her/it and following his teaching is what make one a better Christian or Muslim! We seen the many war that's one will is greater than any any man made machine. It's is your faith not how you show it that make you a better human/Christian/Muslim.