the popup at the bottom that said "spanish translation at 11:35" so i guess that makes it a little easier for the illegal immigrants to pick which democrat they wanna vote for.. i mean, since that's kinda the whole reason they're over here in the first place.
Did you see all of the Ron Paul supporters at the debate, holding signs behind the MSNBC commentators? Apparently Chris Matthews was trying to explain the loud Ron Paul chants as "Hard-Ball, Hard-Ball". Lmao.
"illegal immigrants" ~12M to 20,000,000 illegal immigrants is a really tough issue (one which I usually avoid) ~~~ Nice pix guerilla. Great for name recognition.
And all but McCain from the Republican primary campaigns refused to debate toward an Hispanic population. Meanwhile the legal hispanic born percentage of Americans continues to increase at a dramatic rate. This nation has long had a large percentage of citizens with an hispanic background. The number increases and the percentage of the population increases. As Jack Kemp warned the Republican party and its candidates run the risk of limiting themselves to the white country club party. That is very scary, very exclusive, and frankly, from the Republican side quite dumb and long term likely to be destructive.
both parties are quite dumb for not adopting a national language. you can't have a nation where every other person speaks a different language.. THAT my friend is destructive long term.
I imagine publishing the debate in spanish is an accomodation. Smart move. Most nations have a national language. Some nations easily handle multiple languages. Smaller European nations have different languages that might dominate. In many many nations, big parts of the population speak more than one language. If not multiple languages they handle multiple dialects. A part of the population has a fear of immigration. Since this is the one country in the world dominated by immigrants from around the world, and since there is a huge Spanish speaking population in the nation, it is a smart and strategic move. Does that mean there is a national language or not a national language. It is far from that. It is an accommodation to a large and important part of the population. So the angry neo con anti immigration crowd laughs at Democrats for being smart by expanding the potential marketplace that might listen to the debates. That is quite clever. They are laughing at a population base that found itself attacked by the neo-con base of the republican party. That same population base is more and more removed from any chance at thinking Republican. The legal immigrants who tend to speak Spanish in their homes will tend to vote Democratic. In the national elections of 2000 and 2004 Republicans were gaining Hispanic voters. Now they will tend to lose them. Keep laughing.
Anyone see any space craft after the debate? I recall a number of "new" republicans here who admired kucinich. Now I see why
who said i was laughing?? what you're not seeing is this anti-trust government trend we've established lately.. the reason we lost the midterm elections was for abandoning principles for power.. kinda the same thing you're talking about now? i'm not part of your stereotyped "anti-immigration" crowd you're ranting about either.. i'm pretty sure most conservatives are all for immigration, it's ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. get it I-L-L-E-G-A-L? like, not legal? "They are laughing at a population base that found itself attacked by the neo-con base of the republican party." wait who's being laughed at the illegals or people who speak spanish? and if it's the second choice, when were they attacked by republicans? you are misinformed if you believe that appealing to the illegal immigrant crowd will win you an election too.. there's many many more people in this country who are fed up with them, especially throughout last years amnesty marches. as for those who speak spanish, i don't blame them, i'd speak it too if i didn't have to learn english which they evidently don't.. hell i don't blame them for crossing the border either, what incentive do they have to not do it? it starts with the government.
That's really is a solution to fixing social security is allowing more people in to this country so your parents don't have to take a 50% cut in social security benefits.
And it is still smart marketing. There has been an explosion in the US in Spanish media including print, TV, radio, etc. Businesses of all types advertise aggressively within these media to people who tend to speak their native languages in their homes. (and elsewhere). Throughout the 20th century and in this century there have been various foreign language media throughout the country aimed at that immigrant population. Yesterday, while getting a haircut my barber and I were speaking about her father who retired to Houston. It evidently has one of the larger Vietnamese populations in the US with about 600,000. Ever been to ethnic markets and ethnic areas. Media, newspapers, language--so much of it is in their native tongue. She further referenced how McCain is very popular within that community--something I knew nothing about. She is very American and of Vietnamese origin. She was teaching me stuff about the Vietnamese culture that I didn't know about and likewise we were speaking about popular American culture all at the same time. Meanwhile, an older Vietnamese customer came in and they spoke Vietnamese, I assume. Again, contrast that with the decision of major Republicans running for office in the Primaries that wouldn't speak to a Spanish sponsored debate. They wouldn't even debate in front of that audience. Likewise a debate sponsored by African American media was missed by most of the major front runners for the Republican primaries. None of that has anything to do with a national language. While there are debates about illegal immigration and issues associated with illegal immigration, the Republican party is essentially thumbing its nose at the American population that is Spanish by origin in so many ways. Likewise they thumbed their noses at African Americans by avoiding the other referenced debate. I'm also laughing. In fact there is a long tradition. Marketing a translation of the debate to the Spanish speaking population
earl, neocons are for the most part interested in Amnesty. It's a bogus issue for neocons, as they are conservative globalists (that's a mouthful). There are few nationalists on the stage during the Republican debates. Paul, Tancredo that's about it.
I loved the "haha" in the title of the OP. I'm laughing too. While the mainstream republican candidates and the party is dancing around the illegal immigrant debate and referencing things like a national language, etc., and basically shunning the large hispanic population (legal) in this nation the dems are increasing awareness of their debates to a larger audience. It makes me laugh also.
that's right Earl and their audience just keeps growing and growing each day while there is no border security (illegal). you don't have to speak spanish to be hispanic. btw you've been laughing this whole d@mn thread, chill out.
yup. and that is an entirely different issue. and so while repubs won't speak in front of spanish audiences, and won't address spanish crowds, the dems simply broaden their audience. Now if the only way that republicans see as addressing the problems with illegal aliens is to obviously alienate the spanish speaking population of the nation so much so that they can't even debate and bring their points in front of that large and fast growing legal population......and if people think that it is funny that dems are advertising to that population....and if some think that advertising to that population somehow is in conflict with a national language etc.....well then that strikes me as hilarious. and laughing relaxes me
This is not entirely true. The (sic) top tier candidates avoided the PBS debate in Baltimore, but the 2nd and 3rd tier did not.