To all of you that say domain age has nothing to do with PR...

Discussion in 'Google' started by ShaunG, Oct 30, 2007.

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    I just checked similar sites to a client we are working on and I noticed a few sites that are about 7 years old with 0 backlinks that are PR3 and PR4. This obviously means domain age has to do with PR.

    Also wondering if anyone has come to any other conclusions other than paid links as to why all these sites PR has dropped considerably. Our design site dropped from a PR4 to a PR1 for some stupid reason and we do not buy or sell links or put our links on unrelated pages. :confused::confused:
     
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  2. njoker555

    njoker555 Notable Member

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    you can believe that age has something to do with PR or google is just broken lol - if you haven't noticed, google updated PR like 4 times in the past month - some of my sites are still getting updated - i have a 2 month old domain with a PR1 with 0 backlinks - does age have anything to do with that?

    and dont worry about ur drop, it is pretty retarded, one of my sites went down big time even though it was a personal blog with the only outgoing links to two of my gaming sites
     
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  3. mji2010

    mji2010 Active Member

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    my domain is 2 months old and I got a pr 4 this update
     
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    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #4
    NowThatsHumor.com

    - Age: 1 Year Old
    - PR: 4/10
    - Backlinks: alot
     
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    mcaronan Peon

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    I think age of the domain are not the basis. I have my blog for almost 2 months an I receive PR2 in the last update. :D
     
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  6. ShaunG

    ShaunG Peon

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    Oh its definitely not the basis, I just meant it plays some part of the algorithm.

    @njoker

    Define big time. My site that dropped was a web design site so it was linked to all the other sites on our server in the portfolio and every site we did had a link from the logo to our site. I wonder if interlinking in a network has something to do with the update if those are the only 2 links you had. Did you sell or buy links for that blog?
     
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    mjewel Prominent Member

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    Domain age is not a factor. You can't have PR without backlinks. Google doesn't show all backlinks that it knows about. Check the backlinks using yahoo.
     
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    Jim4767 Prominent Member

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    Of course anecdotal examples of this or that site can't prove or disprove the value of domain age. It has been generally believed that domain age is a factor in SERPs. Whether it is or is not a factor in PR, that's another matter.

    Another factor that some guess has a favorable influence is how far ahead you've paid up your annual domain name fee. I take no chances on that. For the small fee involved, I keep my domain name paid up years in advance. If that gives a small edge in rankings, good. If not, the small fee is no big deal.
     
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  9. corlock

    corlock Banned

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    PR has nothing to do with the domain age.

    Links affects PR, specifically quality links. Domain age affects the SERP ranking of a site.

    (just for the thread starter)
    PR indicates how important and popular a certain site is, and it is its only purpose.
     
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    If you are not selling links, I think this is the reason why your site PR was dropped. Google always changing their algorithm in order that they can give a good services to all users. But for those sites that dug their PR, it's the worst thing.
     
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    casinobonusguy Active Member

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    my 4 month old site is pr5 and my 10years old site is pr4 with natural pr7 and pr8 backlinks *not paid for*
     
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  12. centime

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    #12
    How are you checking the number of links on those domains ?

    Perhaps you're using the wrong tool

    PR is solely a function of incoming links per Googles published policies and statements, no age, no leakeage, no,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


    Then again, only they really know :)
     
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    age is a factor for sure. I've a very old domain (1995!) with no BL's, just trash text and is PR4...
     
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    I think it's something to do with the ratio of inbound links to outbound links.

    Lots of us update our blogs everyday, with outbound links in the posts, and forget to keep building inbound links. At some point the ratio goes out of sync, and we see a page rank drop. If people are going to update blogs often with outbound links, then they MUST pay attention to inbound links too.

    I know I've been a bit lazy in the last few months about continuing to build inbound links. There is a tendency to do a lot of that when you first start blogging, and then to coast.

    That's my theory anyway - I'm sure it's no worse than others that have been put forward!
     
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    alex_d1 Well-Known Member

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    I think age is an important aspect of SERPs as the search engines will tend to regard your site as a type of authority on the field it relates to. However, I don't think that domain age has a real affect to a sites PR, though I could be wrong.
     
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  16. ShaunG

    ShaunG Peon

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    I may have spoke too soon. It looks as if the tool was broken. That being said, I am not 100% PR has anything to do with domain age, although I am pretty sure it is in the algorithm for SERPs somewhere.

    @emaccenti - can you give us the domain name?

    @everyone else - I am still trying to figure out why my site dropped if I had nothing to do with paid links. All I keep hearing about is paid links this and that.

    The only 2 conclusions I can come up with are:

    1. A link to my site was on a blog that had paid links and somehow I got effected by my link being on that blog or they have mistaken my link for a paid link?

    2. The site that took the biggest PR hit had reciprocal links to alot of other sites on our server because we had links in our portfolio without nofollow to these sites and they had our logo with a link to our site and most were unrelated sites on the same network.


    Other than that I am lost!?:confused::confused:
     
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    my domain is about 7 weeks old, and got a PR3 this week.
     
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    I recently shut down a site with a steady PR3 due to a split with a partner. It had a domain thats been around for 10 years and maintaining our PR was easy as pie once we put the effort in to get it going. Its been down for a month and STILL has a PR3...while my active newer sites are much lower....so I think there is real advantage with an older domian name if it had great content and you did your promotion work back at the start.

    on the same token older domians i didn't do much with still suck so age is not everything
     
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    Is it possible domain age + site age is a factor? Say the site has been live for years and years but never promoted?

    I don't think so, but perhaps. Google PR is a joke.
     
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