Riots in Amsterdam and Brussels!

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by ly2, Oct 24, 2007.

  1. cormac

    cormac Peon

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    #21
    I'm more concerned about the non-Muslims as its a bigger problem and its getting worse.
     
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  2. iatbm

    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #22
    And yet when there is natural catastrophy in Europe people join together and help eachother out unlike in USA where government has to send military when people start stealing and killing eachoter ;) You feel the difference ?

    Here in Europe we have police taking care of angry mobs and do not take law into our hands during peace time. When I watch stats it is obvious that even with rioters and hooligans sometimes on streets we have healthier communities and I guess even police is doing better job than police in US...
     
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  3. tbarr60

    tbarr60 Notable Member

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    #23
    You shouldn't speak about the US when you know virtually nothing about it. It sounds like you were raised on Soviet propaganda and you need to start thinking for yourself now. By how much does the volunteerism and charity in your fragment of the former Yugoslavia exceed the US's? BTW, you are welcome for the American efforts that allow you not to live under Nazism and Soviet rule.

    Now put the thread back on focus, this was about rioting started by who?
     
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  4. iatbm

    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #24
    No need to go personal but ok as you wish....

    You seem like typical american who is sticking his nose wherever he wants and when someone else stick into his yard he comes out fully equiped and ready to shoot scared for his life :D

    It has nothing to do with Soviet propaganda. Get out from the 70's...
    Trying to discredit someone this way shows you have absolutely no idea ;)

    The whole world saw what happened after Katrina catastrophy. If I judge volunteerism and charity by that event we pretty much exceed that failure of yours and react somehow different, better.

    Why shouldn't I speek about things and events that I saw on YOUR and other TVs and media and proof exists those took place. I mean school shootings every month and youth dying in school...well I would be worried. I guess Soviets are to blame ?
    Somehow it seems you people just look the other way and preach to muslims and christians from europe that does not follow holy Bush theory about the world. Go clean up your own yard first. We will take care of ours with or without your help. Considering how americans react, with panic, fear and gun in their hands, thank you I don't need your help...
    About that Nazi and Soviet rule from which you so kindly saved us. Don't get yourself to high with this uberalle drug my friend. We were capable to defend ourself just fine without any help and actually first free area during WW2 was around here and there was no sign of american boot in europe at that time ;)
    Of course you can continue to feel like Superman who saved the world.
    Now go back and read some comic about evil reds and good blue.
     
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  5. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #25
    Louisiana and New Orleans are a mess. There is a lot of 'Al Sharpton' politics and a lot of corruption.

    They just hired an Indian guy down there as Governor and he is sure to do a better job.

    Oh by the way, the Americans had to sort out the mess in Yugoland back in 90's as the French and Europe couldn't handle it. Any peace and prosperity in Europe is due to the American occupation for the last 60 years that stopped the Europeans from killing each other.
     
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  6. tbarr60

    tbarr60 Notable Member

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    #26
    I wonder how soon they'll stop bringing up New Orleans and bring up the response in San Diego. Unlike New Orleans where the Left's War on (to keep) Poverty reigns, San Diego, America's Finest city, had too much food and supplies. It got to the point where foreigners were coming in and stealing blankets and supplies at Qualcomm stadium. But then again people from the land of the Hugo knows more then we do, since they were the ones who stopped Hilter ultimately and they know how to watch TV. :rolleyes:
     
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  7. iatbm

    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #27
    I am glad that things improved since Katrina catasrophy.

    Don't twist and turn about WW2, Hugo and Nazis.
    History facts are there who sacrified the most for european and world freedom but I don't have the will to debate with you about WW2 and will just leave you thinking that US saved the world ;)
     
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  8. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #28
    Schwarzenegger is a big improvement compared to Gov. Blanco and Mayor Nagin. The primary responsibility for dealing with emergencies is state and local government. The failure of democrats Gov. Blanco and Mayor Nagin are a national disgrace.

    The US in fact saved the world during WW2. Not only did the US fight on two fronts in Asia and Europe, but, the US supplied vast amounts of war materials to allied nations.

    The list below is the amount of war matériel shipped to the Soviet Union through the Lend-Lease program from its beginning until 30 September 1945.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease

    Aircraft 14,795
    Tanks 7,056
    Jeeps 51,503
    Trucks 375,883
    Motorcycles 35,170
    Tractors 8,071
    Guns 8,218
    Machine guns 131,633
    Explosives 345,735 tons
    Building equipment valued $10,910,000
    Railroad freight cars 11,155
    Locomotives 1,981
    Cargo ships 90
    Submarine hunters 105
    Torpedo boats 197
    Ship engines 7,784
    Food supplies 4,478,000 tons
    Machines and equipment $1,078,965,000
    Non-ferrous metals 802,000 tons
    Petroleum products 2,670,000 tons
    Chemicals 842,000 tons
    Cotton 106,893,000 tons
    Leather 49,860 tons
    Tires 3,786,000
    Army boots 15,417,001 pairs
     
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    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #29
    Keep on dreaming :rolleyes:

    Really it is useless to debate with people who think that US saved the world during WW2. There are so many factors why Hitler and nazis lost that it is ignorant to say US saved all the others from Nazi Germany. Like I said there were free previously occupied territories before american boot or american help with resources ever entered the europe. We also have to consider Hitler stuck in Greece trying to help italians etc. It is arguable that US made the decisive contribution to the defeat of Hitler.
    I read many books about WW2 and pattern in western made publications can be seen where they forget that considering volume of operations on eastern front is decisive to the fall of Hitler.
     
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  10. Nora

    Nora Well-Known Member

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    #30
    Strange.. I live in The Netherlands but haven't heard of it. Its wrong that they're trying to control the country, if you don't like the way things are then why immigrate?
     
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  11. bogart

    bogart Notable Member

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    #31
    Dutch lawmakers offended by Rep. Lantos, Democrat-California

    "You have to help us, because if it was not for us you would now be a province of Nazi Germany," Lantos said, according to the Dutch lawmakers.

    The Dutch government soon will announce whether its troops will stay in the southern Afghan province of Uruzgan, where they recently have begun an anti-Taliban offensive backed by British and Afghan forces. Lantos has praised the Netherlands' contribution to the Afghan mission.
     
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  12. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #32
    I am a Canadian. I have lived in LA and I have a house there. I have also visited many parts of the USA and even lived there for a short periods of time, for example NY, Kansas and Miami.
    I have also lived in Sweden (Stockholm), Belgium (Antwerp), England (London) and have been to most of Europe cities including Amsterdam, different parts of Germany and even east Europe. I can honestly say that LA or NY are much more dangerous than any European city. I would never dare to walk in LA after dark while this is not a problem at all in Europe. I live in down town Vancouver and I can go for a walk in the middle of night and go get something to eat, try that in a big American city. :)
     
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  13. LinkSales

    LinkSales Active Member

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    #33
    I'll do it for 30%
     
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  14. bogart

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    #34
    New York is a lot safer than some of the places that I have been in Europe like Marseille (France) in the North African Quarter and Algeciras and Ceuta (Spain)

    Due to illegal immigration the problems are going to get worse with the extremists in Europe and a lot of areas are going to look more like Marseille in a few years.
     
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    #35
    When I arrived in LA twenty years ago, I was shocked at how nice it was. You cover a lot of ground when you say LA, there are good parts and bad and the bad parts for some people are good for others.

    I have spent about 6 months outside of the US, in my 36 hours in Paris I saw one purse snatching. In my 5 days in Manila I saw one armed bank robbery. In my many decades in the states I haven't personally seen this sort of crime even though I spent a good amount of time in LA and Detroit. If there is crime in some pockets of the US, blame it on our welfare system that demotivatives and keeps people in poverty.
     
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    #36
    Exactly.

    If there are no jobs then why are there 12 million illegal aliens.
     
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  17. zangief

    zangief Well-Known Member

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    #37
    Please don't visit my country :D.
    By the way the mess in Europe is not about illegal immigration etc , the problem is raising of racialism and effect causes reaction.But despite these events europe is a real safe place.
    One of my friends moved to Sweden and came back after 6 months , he said it was so boring - everything was under control :)

     
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