Getting Harassed & Clickbank Allowing It!?

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by veneficuz, Oct 25, 2007.

  1. #1
    I have a campaign that advertises on a certain trademark keyword, but I don't use their trademark in my ad, and in no way am I going against google TOS.

    The exact quote from them

    "I will go ahead with the reactivation. However, please avoid this term as Clickbank would like a avoid further legal action from this company, whether substantiated or not. Thank you."

    Not only iare they letting this company extort me and them out of a keyword they don't own. They are backing down just because of idle threats?

    This keyword is 70% of the profit I make, and I can't let them win.

    Any Ideas?

    Ideas?
     
    veneficuz, Oct 25, 2007 IP
  2. dlm

    dlm Peon

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    #2
    Get a lawyer.
     
    dlm, Oct 25, 2007 IP
  3. veneficuz

    veneficuz Peon

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    We'll don't really want to pay for a lawyer, anyone experience anything like this before?
     
    veneficuz, Oct 25, 2007 IP
  4. NathanFalkner

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    #4
    I'm sympathetic to your frustration, I truly am... but the dilemma that arises
    is that you're essentially going up against internal policy decisions being made
    that are likely to be legally defensible. That's a tough nut to crack. And even
    if you were able to crack it, the emotional and psychological cost to you, as
    well as the financial cost, might not make it worthwhile.

    There's no easy answer here, and as glib and flippant as it might initially seem,
    advice suggesting that you consult with an attorney is actually a good idea
    because I think it will help give you a more realistic sense of what legal
    options are truly available to you in this case.

    EDIT: I should also point out that concurrent with investigating what
    options you can pursue to freely use this critical keyword as you'd like without
    interference, you should probably also start attempting to diversify away from
    being overly reliant on that one keyword. Anyway, good luck with this!
     
    NathanFalkner, Oct 25, 2007 IP
  5. veneficuz

    veneficuz Peon

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    Yes, it is very depressing. But I appreciate your help.

    What should my formal response to Tom at Clickbank be, maybe It would be possible to work this out before I talk to a lawyer, or should I not say anything before I talk to a lawyer.

    Thanks
     
    veneficuz, Oct 25, 2007 IP
  6. eric8476

    eric8476 Active Member

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    NathanFalkner, are you a www (dot) Clickbank.com employee or associated with www (dot) Clickbank.com in any way?
     
    eric8476, Oct 25, 2007 IP
  7. mamtasaini

    mamtasaini Peon

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    #7
    I think you are sending directly to clickbank hop link from adwords.

    I would say try making a high pitch page and then send it to clickbank. Than clickbank will be out of loop.
     
    mamtasaini, Oct 25, 2007 IP
  8. dlm

    dlm Peon

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    The company was complaining to Clickbank.

    So that wont help.
     
    dlm, Oct 26, 2007 IP
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    #9
    May I ask what word you were using and which company are moaning at you. I'm very interested into why they don't want you to use it?
     
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  10. Barry Scott

    Barry Scott Active Member

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    #10
    I would get another few CB ids, have any adwords ads going to landing page, then links going to their sales page through a meta refresh/php redirect or using CBlink Shield.

    The product owners must be using google to target you by looking at the CPC ads, so alternatively, if the word definitely is not against google TOS, find a similar product (their biggest competitor) and promote them instead! I would even consider getting another 2 or 3 CB ids, then each time they find out, use another. It will be so time consuming for them to continually email CB and make the same request again and again

    The seller will not know it's you either, he'll just think someone else is doing it.

    Fight fire with fire. If they're being bastards, use your click throughs to sell someone elses product. Maybe even let them know as well! ;)
     
    Barry Scott, Oct 26, 2007 IP
  11. Hade

    Hade Active Member

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    #11
    Maybe leave Clickwank and join a better service, such as PayDotCom.com

    Clickbank are idiots at the best of times.

    Also, you can't blame the guy trying to protect his company name. I'd do the same.
    It's Clickbank who should think more about the people who pay their wages, and not themseles for a change. I see this time and time again.
     
    Hade, Oct 26, 2007 IP
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    #12
    Good advice and yet you are promoting ClickBank products in your sig :confused:
     
    baumann93, Oct 26, 2007 IP
  13. veneficuz

    veneficuz Peon

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    Thanks for advice guys,

    Now I don't want to go shooting the place up yet, I went for the compromise with Clickbank. Now yes the people with money are allowed to be extortionists(RIAA for ex.), but I'm going to see If clickbank has the balls to stick up for me to these people(probably not).

    I kindly replied and asked could you see what "exactly" I'm doing thats illegal, and If it is, I will happily stop. Go Jennifer!

    Will keep updated.
     
    veneficuz, Oct 26, 2007 IP
  14. Hade

    Hade Active Member

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    Just cos I hate them, doesn't mean I don't want to profit off them :D
     
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    #15
    Advertise the keyword evenings or weekends when the company's employees are not at their office.

    Setup Geographical targeting at Adwords and exclude the US or US state where the company is located so that the ads can't be seen by the company.
     
    qh4dotcom, Oct 26, 2007 IP
  16. kanaderohan

    kanaderohan Banned

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    #16
    if the company is big, you cannot help it bully you

    either get a good lawyer or just think of some other keyword
     
    kanaderohan, Oct 26, 2007 IP
  17. mamtasaini

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    #17
    Dunno how many took that seriously. I did and started one product promotion. Well results so far look pretty good, I am definitely planning to move away from clickbank slowly.
     
    mamtasaini, Oct 29, 2007 IP