Poll ~ The Flood & Noah's Ark ~ Fact or Fiction?

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Flood and Noah's Ark ~ Fact or Fiction?

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  1. stOx

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    #102
    Remember that the flood story was actually Jewish Tradition before it was Christian. The fact that a flood story is mentioned in other cultures does lead me to believe that a flood at some point did actually happen. However, we all know that even though religious books (such as the Bible) are considered the "inspired Word of God", they are also written by humans, and therefore have errors in them.
     
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    #103
    I think that is the most sense I have ever seen you write!
     
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    #104
    then you haven't been reading my posts. :D
     
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    #105

    If you will read my post a little more carefully, i was actually asking because i wasnt sure what the answer of that was in a scientific explanation. It was just a question i simply didnt know the scientific explanation to.

    you did not read the links content then. the bottom link shows quite a few examples of when science said one thing, and the bible said another, then science later changed its mind and agreed with the bible.




    They are written by humans which are inspired by the holy spirit which is perfect in every way.
     
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    #106
    how about the claims that aren't true? how about the bible saying the moon is a source of light when infact it is not...it just reflects the sun's light

    your bottom link also contains just assumptions, here's an example:
    "Could this be the telephone?
    Job 38:35-CANST THOU SEND LIGHTNINGS (or we might say, electrical currents), THAT THEY MAY GO, AND SAY UNTO THEE, HERE WE ARE?"
     
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    #107
    But humans are not perfect...if this is the case as you say, why are there two creation stories which are different? Why are there contradictions in the Bible. I think it is important to realize for Christians the distinction of Worshiping God vs. Worshiping the Bible. Many people who fight for the Bible's "perfectness" often worship it over God. To say that the Bible was written perfectly is to say that humans didn't mess up, and that cannot be the case.
     
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    #108
    So now that you have the scientific explanation are you going to reject the idea of a global flood? that would make sense now that your reason for believing it has been shown to be false.

    No i didn't read the links entirely. If you have an argument to present post it here. it's unreasonable to ask people to read entire sites and then come here to debunk every point they make. Like i say, It's a discussion, not a bible class. I would also be more interested in what you think, Not what you have been told to think by a site you found while searching the internet for statements that support your preconceived ideas.
     
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    #109
    the moon is a source of light in a sense, it may not be the direct source, but its pretty obvious that it is illuminated.

    that site is just one of many, and it is what i think. I believe the bible is truth, and it has never been prove wrong, however many accounts in the bible have been prove to be quite true. And no i still believe in a global flood, but i will admit it isn't due to evidence but faith.

    When one strays from the truth " the bible" the story begins to change. if the bible isn't specific than you just don't know. We as Christians, are not supposed to add to the bible what isn't there. The bible is Gods word, it is out manual on life. To love god is to obey him, you have to know what to obey and this is done by reading his word. Those that wrote the scriptures were only human in form when writing them, just as a demon pissessed person can invoke super human strength.

    If i missed your question, sorry. I'm not a scholar by far, but i study with some that could be considered scholars. The main thing a Christian should do is have faith that the bible is true. We shouldn't add or take from it. We shouldn't assume. The great debate between science and religion will not be won until the end of time on earth. The reason for this is faith, it isn't scientific. Many have witnessed miracles, and many have recorded them in writing, not just Christians and Jews. But all ancient mankind has witnessed God. The Greeks have their Gods, which in the bible are known as nephilim, or giants. The bible has it all.
     
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    #110
    you can illuminate anything but it doesn't mean that anything can be a light source. A source means the place where something originates from. the moon's light does not originate from the moon but it's reflecting the sun's light therefore it's NOT a light source
     
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    #111
    technically you are correct, i do not argue, but the fact is, light does come from the moon, whether it is the original source or not.

    If i leave America, take a flight to china, by way of Europe, am i wrong if i said i came from Europe
     
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    You would be wrong if you said you originated in Europe.
    Source = Origin
     
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    #113
    I believe the quote said "A source of light" not The source of light. A reflected light is still A Source of light

    the moon at night is in fact A source of light
     
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    #114
    The moon at night is a source of reflected sunlight. We're getting into semantics here but it doesn't matter how many different ways you say this, it's wrong.
     
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    #115
    That still makes it a source of light, so it is not wrong.
     
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    This point is arguing over semantics. I thought the topic was about Noah's Ark??
     
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