Iran has countered back and.... WOW

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  1. iatbm

    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #41
    Exactly the same way US smuggled weapons and rockets ( especially stingers ) into Afghanistan when soviets were there ;)
    But there is nothing wrong with that and it is not terrorism or something similar since US is involved ...
     
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    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #42

    N_F_S

    I don't believe Iran has S-300 ?? Any sources for this ?

    But they got Tors for sure....
     
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    #43
    Iran having S-300 is somewhat ambiguous.

    Pentagon claims Iran has S-300
    http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/2/11/183950.shtml

    Russian deny that they sold S-300 to Iran
    http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=79052

    Although Iran seeks S-300 for its air defense...

    Interesting debate on an Iranian forum
    http://www.irandefence.net/archive/index.php/t-952.html
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #44

    There is a difference: Russia wanted to take over afghanistan.

    The US is not trying to take over Iraq...see the difference? Once our job is done, we will leave. However, amadenJIHAD wants control just like the russians did.

    Do you see it that way, or do you see it the same?
     
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    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #45
    They will not get S-300. Russkies are not stupid. They sold them Tor which is as good as they will get from Russia. Let's be honest here that it is not in russias interest for Iran to possess such a defensive weapon also....
     
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    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #46
    Throwing a statement like this about afghan war shows your lack of knowledge...go read somewhere please what was going on!

    As for how I see it :

    I see it that two enemies were fighting and US smuggled weapons and supported one side.

    I see it that two enemies are fighting and allegedly ( no proof to date ) Iran is smuggling weapons and supporting one side.


    Get over it man. It is not Iranians, Iraqis or Osama who is at fault for all the problems US is getting. Pretty much it is your own fault and you should first clean at your doors. Considering hate and propaganda you try to push here at DP I see why you have many problems....
    Criminals, rapists and boys shooting at school. Happenings of this kind are not seen in the other parts of the world at the scale those are seen in US.
     
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  7. drmike

    drmike Well-Known Member

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    #47
    If the US did not and does not want to take over Iraq and Afghanastan... then why is the best protected parts of those countries that parts that contain the oil pipeline carrying oil to ships for the US to use? In my opinion, Bush does not give a damn about the well being of the people of Iraq, Afghanastan, or even the US for that matter. All that man really cares about is lining the pockets of himself, his family, and his buddies, all while hurdeling towards a US controlled, one world government.
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #48
    Have you seen where the Oil from Iraq actually goes? There was a big thread on here about that...the MAJORITY of the Oil from Iraq does NOT go to the US, we get our our from the Black Sea, the Gulf of Mexico, Alaska, and South America. Go do a search of the forum, that thread is out there...and I have never heard anything mentioned about oil from Afghanistan....are you sure on that one?
     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #49
    I think we have the problem at hand...what we see as a fight for freedom, you see as a fight between two enemies. I guess that is how it is going to be though...besides, there is no arguing with ignorance, so I will leave it at this...you said there is no proof...what do you call this?

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Iranian+weapons+in+Iraq&btnG=Google+Search
     
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    #50
    Are you trying to convince people that they should not argue with you? :rolleyes:
     
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    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #51

    Haha you are funny with your double standards.

    Did you hear about black market ?

    There is no proof that Iranian government is arming terrorist or freedom fighters - whatever you want. At least that is what we can read in free countries ;)

    You see russian made leftover weapons and even american weapons all over afghanistan. Is Russia arming afghan terrorists or freedom fighters. Or is it US ? :D

    Man your brains are soooo brainwashed that it not even funny anymore. It is pathetic ...
     
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    #52
    yes, I am sure we are the ones that are brainwashed...after all, we hang people that don't agree with the govt., we don't have gays in our country, and we openly advocate for the destruction of anyone who is a "zionist"...yep, the USA is going straight to hell in a handbasket because we are the ones without freedom....
     
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  13. drmike

    drmike Well-Known Member

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    #53
    http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/pipelinemap.gif

    There are pipelines all throughout the region... and regardless of where the oil is going, to find the real answers you have to look at where the money from the oil is going.
     
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    #54
    It is pipeline ;)
     
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    drmike Well-Known Member

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    #55
    The US has freedoms... but you are lead to believe you have a lot more than you really do. Just look at the major news corporations and TV stations who refuse to report on, or instead report government views on certain news stories.
     
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    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #56
    Freedom is in the head ;)

    Your cheap propaganda all over DP is already exposed couple of times and all DP is laughing at you. You just don't see it yet and probably never will.

    It is freedom in the head d16man that bothers you.
     
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    #57
    Actually its not true. If you read the history of Soviet-Afghan conflict, you would find it entirely false.

    The Conflict was actually between Reformist People's Democratic Party of Afghanistan (PDPA), who wanted to Reform the Afghanistan and get rid on the extreme Islamic practice,was backed by Soviet Union because of PDPA's Marxist practice and largely Islamic fundamentalist Mujahideen insurgents.

    The PDPA was responsible for establishing Democratic Republic of Afghanistan.
    The PDPA was frown upon by US (because of it's closeness to Soviet and Marxist practice) and its allies Pakistan and Saudi Arabia (because of Islamic Issues).

    PDPA made few mistakes while trying to reform the Country and on some points reacted very violently to the reform opposing groups and Prisoned and executed thousands of Village Mullah and other Islamic headmen.

    This caused an uprising of Islamic fundamentalists backed by Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Later (Unfortunately) by US.

    The US was bitter because of Vietnam war and played the same role in Afghanistan conflict that USSR played in Vietnam war.

    Although US didn't support and provided weapons directly to the Al Qaeda (As believed by many) and Osama bin Laden (In reality Osama bin Laden hated US as much as he hated USSR and Saddam Hessian). But Us played a significant role in ensuring the victory of fundamentalist Islamists unknowingly that it would back fire to them in future.
     
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    #58
    your government office figures say so.
    CDC search terms death by firearm, age 0-19 from 1988-1998 the last 10 year figure that you can ask for on the site.

    Read it and weep

    CDC.gov

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    #59
    My government office doesn't say any such thing... I am a proud Canadian.
     
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    drmike Well-Known Member

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    #60
    Also... last time I checked there were not 822,470,068 people living in the US... I think 400,000,000 is a little more accurate
     
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