Article Marketing & ClickBank - My Documented Journey

Discussion in 'ClickBank' started by Ponynugget, Aug 30, 2007.

  1. kromit

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    #301
    Ponynugget,

    I'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest that you reveal at least one of the niches you are promoting. Chances are slim that anyone will try and copy you as conversion seems to be extremely low. But by revealing one of your niches you (and we) could maybe gain some insight as to why you are not making sales.

    Just a thought...

    Tom
     
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  2. entropy2go

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    #302
    Nice touch. Great suggestion!
     
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  3. entropy2go

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    #303
    Dang, I just wasted two hours of my life looking for a good link exchange, preferably one that is free but if there are no good free ones I can handle one that charges a small fee.

    Cannot believe how many are out there! I am looking for similar sites to exchange links with (no porn or unethical stuff). Anyone have any suggestions or recommendations based on experience?

    Thanks in advance!

    BR,
    Dave
     
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  4. emon878

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    #304
    Yes I agree ponyniggut you must me promoting a really poor niche. I've had 900 clicks from
    my clickbank and 20 sales. So I am happy with my niche and I've only written four articles so
    far and no opt-in yet.

    So I would suggest concentrate your efforts on a different niche because you have a great work ethic.

    P.S - One of my articles was on an unlimited iphone downloads website and that one did not do very
    well so I dropped that and stuck to my original niche for the other articles.
     
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  5. Gregg Hall

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    #305
    Article Marketing works. The reason a lot more people don't do it on a regular basis is because it is work and the majority of people online are looking for quick and easy.

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    As you can see by my stats here from Ezine Articles I have the numbers to back up what I am saying.

    Gregg
     
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  6. gary101

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    #306
    Well so what, what do those stats show?

    you got 1755 articles and have 10,516 clicks, that's not many clicks for a lot of work. How long did it take you to write all those articles? The people making the money are probably the article directory getting adsense clicks on Your page views. If you would make 4 websites from these articles you would be getting the adsense click revenue and not them!

    I do admit if you are a experienced writer and can produce quality articles then you probably can make some good money, but most people doing this are turning out 300-400 word mass production rubbish, the reader has to gain something from your article before they would consider purchasing something.

    So how much have you made from 10k worth of clicks?
     
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  7. ExpertForumGuy

    ExpertForumGuy Well-Known Member

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    #307
    My method, is writing 10 articles and a review page for every great product niche that I like...
    when one converts extremely well, i quadruple up on that one.

    and i have the review page, because if they really like it I can just put in an opt-in list with a freebie, and build a massive list with that niche.

    After that, the potential is unlimited, if that list makes me enough money, I can pay a freelancer to create an ebook or product for me to compliment that specific niche, then market that to my list as well. I can even put that same product on clickbank.

    Now imagine if you did that for every single niche that converted

    YOUR MAKING HUGE CASH!

    So be sure to build a list.
     
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  8. kromit

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    #308
    As you can see in the attached screenshot, I don't have that many articles yet. But clickthrough is pretty solid at 36%, one of the newest articles is at 50%. Those 513 clicks have so far resulted in 17 sales of one CB product. If you leave out the second product I only recently started promoting, it's 453 clicks for 17 sales (3.7%).

    The "secret" to a good CTR on your articles is that your bio box must tie into what your article is about. Forget the usual "John Smith is the owner of JohnSmith.com..." - nobody cares. Cut the ego and presell your links.

    If your article is about getting rid of acne, your links should point to a solution for getting rid of acne. Of course that sounds simple, but I still see the majority of articles using a bio box in the John Smith format. What a waste.

    I would also recommend focussing on products that solve peoples' problems. People with problems (health, money, relationships, kids, pets, ...) will gladly pay to get rid of those problems. Use your article to show empathy, be the person who had their problem too and found the solution. Then point them to that solution.

    Tom
     

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  9. Gregg Hall

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    #309
    That is the way it has to be done. They will kick the article back if it is linked to a folder or subdomain.

    Gregg
     
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    #310
    I won't even bother to comment to someone with "SIX" posts who comes in the forum being rude and obnoxious without demonstrating ANY credentials.

    Article directories server their purpose of backlinks I am NOT relying on them for traffic

    Gregg
     
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    #311
    this is a fun little project. admire the will bro. never give up never surrender.
     
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  12. gary101

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    #312
    Jeez your sensitive, all you done was say look at my stats it shows that article marketing works, but the stats don't mean anything unless backed up with actually sales figures, otherwise it's just a pointless exercise.

    Also what's the amount of posts got to do with anything? If I’m making a point it doesn't matter how many posts I've made. All I'm saying is that if you sat down and worked out the amount of hours spent writing articles, submitting them etc and then calculated how much you have actually earnt on a per hour basis it probably wouldn't be a great deal.

    Sure if you like writing interesting informative articles that offer something of real value then great you can't go wrong. But most people are churning out articles just for the sake of trying to make money, they aren't experts in the field they are writing about, most are crappy reviews about some affiliate product they want to sell, unless you know the subject you are writing about don't bother, the internet is already 99% full of crap :p
     
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  13. Gregg Hall

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    I don't generally post sales figures to forums. For those who have done article marketing for any length of time at all you know that the immediate clicks are only a part of the picture.

    I am more concerned with the 20,000 times that publishers have published my articles which has led to them being found on hundreds of thousands of pages. THAT is where the big money is. AND yes the time and money I have invested does pay off.

    Gregg
     
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  14. gary101

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    That's great I'm glad it's working for you.

    My main point is this, Google knows exactly what's going on with article directories and you have no control over which sites your articles will end up on, mostly junk sites that are of no real value. Google won’t value an article that has been printed 30 times on net and won’t value the links in the article either. Backlinks are overrated, I have a site that has no incoming links but I'm still able to get a first page position for articles within the site.

    I also have websites that contain mostly articles from directories, these are of no value to google and aren't ranked at all, my sites that contain original content (only one article on the net hopefully) are obviously of much greater value and receive 20 times the traffic. So instead of submitting your original articles to directories create 8 websites of 200 articles, I am almost certain this would bring in more money and traffic than submitting 1700 articles to ezine, goarticles etc.
     
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  15. Gregg Hall

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    #1 I don't rely SOLELY on Google for ANYTHING

    #2 I NEVER said I ONLY submitted the articles to directories. The article submission is only a small part of the puzzle. We always have original content on our sites.

    As far as other sites with copies of the articles on their sites - all I can say is that having thosands of other sites with our links on them has done well for us.

    Gregg
     
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    Ok I guess I'm thinking long term and how only quality will win in the end. Just checking out your websites I mean it's all just affiliate junk? :confused:, resale stuff, 500 articles, be the first 200 people etc to me there's nothing of value there, then again I guess newbies get sucked in by it.

    Good luck!
     
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  17. Gregg Hall

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    #317
    NO MORE POSTS TO THIS THREAD.

    Sorry didn't mean to let it get hijacked by someone trying their hardest just to be an ass. I have been marketing online since 1995. The links in my signature are to help people who are just getting started. I am not so foolish as to put links to my primary niches here.

    GOOD LUCK TO ALL

    Gregg Hall ---REAL NAME
     
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    LOL

    On dear can't stand a bit of scrutiny, helping people getting started why is your face on every single website then? :eek:

    I'm not hijacking this thread I'm dealing out a bit of reality, the internet is full of crap, be different and turn out quality and you will win in the end, that's all I'm saying, also don't call me an ass dude, all we are having is a discussion on a forum if you can't hack it don't bother replying.
     
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  19. mamtasaini

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    What do you mean? Movies/Music do not convert. Well refund is a bit on the high side.

    I am converting more than 7 sales in 565 hops on an average.
     
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  20. hanleo46

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    #320
    Thanks for your comments,Sutocu, they are appreciated.

    You are right the subject article it is an overview of article marketing, not a roadmap to prosperity,,,,,,that would be a multi-article ebook...

    Yes articles are useful to create links to your website......and are typically not reciprocal......nothing says that a one way link form a blog has to go directly to website.....it can refer to content contained in articles....not perfect but an intertwining effect nonetheless.

    And yes SEO is an ongoing process......Thanks Again

     
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