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DP Directory Owner Members where are they now !

Discussion in 'Directories' started by britishguy, Oct 22, 2007.

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Which would you Prefer in the DP Directory Category

  1. That the category is beneficial to all POSTERS

    69.9%
  2. That the category IS TAKEN OVER BY TROLLS

    30.1%
  1. scoobby

    scoobby Active Member

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    #41
    oops thought that was asking what i believe that had happen here:eek:
    of course i want these trolls out...:rolleyes:
     
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  2. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #42
    This is almost laughable. Who are the trolls? In my view, it's the people who spammed and scammed in the directory forum before the big crash. The people who are currently active in criticizing such behavior aren't the problem.

    Exactly! Right on!

    And the idea of making any of these people moderators is ridiculous. It's not difficult to predict the outcome of that move, is it?
     
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  3. mikey1090

    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    #43
    Minstrel, this thread isnt about who trashed directories or made google mad with selling links in their empty categorised directory.

    Its about the people who post crap rather than facts.

    The people who write "web directories are a load of junk" etc etc that ruined the place.

    The people that whenever a quality discussion got going, they had to butt in, personally attack the members with what they beleived werent quality directory owners, and call them scammers and worse.

    The people that even today are still at it. If people have nothing useful to say, they shouldnt say it at all. Yes its a free world, yes its a public forum, but some things just dont need to be said.

    In this very forum i have yet to see you take part in any useful debates minstrel, the threads where newbies ask how to be successful, the threads where people ask for opinions. You only reply to the negative based threads, like this one, like the anti bid directory threads, like the "google bashed some paid directories" threads etc.

    I rest my case. If you get some kind of pleasure from posting what you do, go ahead. If not, dont bother posting at all. Help educate the new people rather than name call the older ones.
     
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  4. scoobby

    scoobby Active Member

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    #44
    In my opinion minstrel and phoenix and some other members i am not remember, have a critic view for the directories that is based on some facts and they are providing some good proofs and they are not insaulting(most times at least) so even if i am not sharing the same opinion(s) i would like to hear what they have to say and learn from them...
     
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  5. popotalk

    popotalk Notable Member

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    #45
    With respect to the OP and let me ask a question. If I might say as an example only no need for everyone to jump all over me. Let's say if someone says that a web directory is now worthless due to the fact that it has a temporary penalization does he qualifies as a troll for expressing his views ? The problem here is that everyone belongs in one grouping that no one sees the other side of the coin. Should it be open as this is an open forum and not a forum that pertains to a single entity or a group. Pros and Cons are and should be deliberated. If everyone in a group nodding their head at the same time then something is wrong. It would just be like we can register now to have an ID card of the former Politburo that everything should be under control.
     
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  6. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    And most of those are directory owners...

    I'm pretty sure your criteria for things that don't need to be said would be posts like mine that are critical of bidding directories. But they do need to be said. You don't want to hear it, obviously, but it needs to be said nonetheless.

    First, where am I name-calling? (Unlike you - I've seen some of your red rep comments.) You have it backwards, Mikey. That's not the problem and you know it. The problem is you don't like what I have to say and you'd really love it if you had a way to prevent me saying it.

    You and guys like you have been fleecing people with your directories. And even your heroes have publicly admitted to violating Google's guidelines. Google finally took action against you. Now you're all spamming the directories forum with threads about how you see directories making a comeback in a desperate effort to get back some of your lost income. But nothing has changed and nothing will. Even if some of these directories do rise again in Google rankings, the links are still going to be worthless from an SEO standpoint (PR and anchor text). And to claim that the anyone is going to get any real traffic from the vast majority of these directories is almost criminally ludicrous.
     
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  7. The Pheonix

    The Pheonix Banned

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    #47
    Excellent post, its exactly why this anon person wants people like me and workshop out of here. (Quote him) :rolleyes: He smply doesn't like the truth being said and he certainly doesn't like people standing up against him because he knows we're not going to stroke his ego like others do. I do exactly as you advise stoner, I ignore fools and idiots in the hope that they will go elsewhere to bloat their already overinflated ego's and quickly emptying pockets.
     
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    coolweb Notable Member

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    #48
    Nice thread pete, you started it at very right time when we all need such kind of awareness.

    I always loved to visit Directories area at DP, to share, learn and exchange ideas with other directory owners and always got benefited. But in the last few months (specially right after the Paid Links de-valuation by Google) some directory haters got a chance to start some thrill, sensation and rumors. They are not even can support their own words.

    I believe all experienced and old directory owners who are trying to do something extra in the directories business, spending time on promotions, building strong directories and helping new directory owners to come in the directories field, will not like to participate in unnecessary started threads, rumors and replying more to posts on personal attacks.
     
    coolweb, Oct 22, 2007 IP
  9. britishguy

    britishguy Prominent Member

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    No great post Jude but and the but is how can anyone base without facts that anything is worthless

    Give all people the right to participate but everyone should remember its a commercial world so money is involved

    But of course money would not bring in envy and jealousy, that would never happen would it:rolleyes:

    Here on DP with the present climate that would warrant a comment that something is worthless :eek:

    Well that isn't right now is it

    We all need to be successful not just the chosen few, but life aint like that is it ?

    Congratulations popotalk on a top sale the other day :)
     
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  10. popotalk

    popotalk Notable Member

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    #50
    We have been there and if chasing pr and manipulation was not the right way to do it. We should have all learned our lessons by now.
    I agree with you here but lets go back to read stoners post so everyone could learn.
    again a message from stoner would be very valuable for this.

    Just my take.
     
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  11. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #51
    There are plenty of facts supporting the criticisms. You just don't like the facts. Understably, since it costs you money. But they are facts nonetheless.

    There's nothing wrong with making money. I admire people who do that legitmately. I abhor scammers and spammers and I am happy to see Google taking steps to cut into their income.

    I worked in forensic-correctional psychology for a number of years (and still do a bit of that kind of work). A lot of the comments from the directory spammers, scammers, and link farm operators sound remarkably like what the criminologists call "techniques of neutralization" - rationalizations used by criminals that attempt to justify the fact that they are taking money or property by force or fraud.

    Exactly. There are none so blind as will not see.
     
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  12. bobby9101

    bobby9101 Peon

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    I chose not to vote, because I just don't think there is much for anyone to post aobut now. Turkeys or non-turkeys

    (and yes I relize that many would call me a turkey or a troll and a negative member)
     
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    #53
    One member who was here recently, i think by the name of LaCabra was someone i appreciated giving their view, as far as i remember he/she pointed out various flaws with different things but at least gave input and suggestions as to what may be useful, things worth trying.

    I actually took on board what he/she said in a few threads that we took part in, he/she was reasonable as far as i remember and had a fair and polite way of putting things across, even on some disagreements, there was still that mutual respect.

    What im pointing out is he/she didn't appear to jump into a thread for the hell of knocking anyone but gave a thought out response and seemed genuine about what he said.
     
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  14. britishguy

    britishguy Prominent Member

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    Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 13 (10 members and 3 guests)
    britishguy, alang, balkanboy, coolweb, malcolm1, minstrel, pipes, popotalk, stoner3221, The Pheonix

    Whats so interesting folks is the Directory Category coming back to life :D
     
    britishguy, Oct 22, 2007 IP
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    #55
    If it was being not the right way, there could be some constructive debates on the topics instead of spreading utter words and personal attacks on the directory owners. I have seen few guys abusing others and attacking directly in manner less ways, if it was right way to teach a lesson then i would never like to be student of such debates :) Hope you will not like to learn from such an environment too or will you?
     
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    I like money too Pete. I work 5 days a week on an offline business scrubbing floors, 2 days a week for 3 weeks on the security of jet propulsion lab at Lockheed Martin here in Maryland and also taking the time to review submissions at my directory when I have the chance.

    The chosen few I don't know about them and I would not wish to know. But I always am willing to help some deserving people and you know that already. :)

    Thanks and besides the sale I have partnered/ventured with some SEO's that Bob has recommended and we could chat about this whenever you have time.

    :)
     
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    bobby9101 Peon

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    The fact is that despite numerous and countless warnings, most people ignored them and chose to continue sucking money from the pockets of many new and misinformed members here.
    Now all of the sudden the unifmormed realize they were scammed, and stopped giving up allt heri money, then the money suckers ran for cover while screaming that they were being slandered.
     
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    bobby9101 Peon

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    It doesn't come from the left alone nor the right it comes from everywhere.
    absolutely. :)
    When Idi Amin slaughtered and ate people of Uganda it was placed in history books and even was showed on television. At Tiananmen Square people died. Its a crazy environment out there. We learn and we move on or just dont participate. That simple. :)
     
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  20. britishguy

    britishguy Prominent Member

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    Hey bobby thats fine its your opinion which is not wholly with/or without foundation, but thats your interpretation, which is fine too

    I like many others here are striving for a level playing field without fair/or unfair advantages for either side

    But I hope that we will have a RESULT and that RESULT will be based on facts not nuances, rumours, summizations, lets have the facts not we think, we believe, we summize etc

    A bit more maturity, honesty and transparency helps us all

    Thanks for your input bobby :cool:
     
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