Most Abused Directory Features

Discussion in 'Directories' started by CReed, Oct 21, 2007.

  1. #1
    As a directory owner, what do you feel are the most abused features of your directory by submitters?

    I've removed some features not long ago as a result and wondered if you were seeing any thing similar?

    Featured Listings - One of the most abused features; submitters have an expectation that their preferred anchor text and description will be used. Is it because you charge a premium for this listing and the submitter feels that paying the additional fee gives them the right to dictate how their listing appears in your directory?

    Top Hits Page - Have you ever compared the number of actual referrals against direct requests for the listings on this page? Any idea why some listings have triple the number of hits as most others? ;)

    Deeplinks - Again, submitters think they are entitle to whatever they submit. I've seen URLs for completely different sites, or multiple titles for the same URL. How would having multiple links to the same page of a site from the details page be of any benefit to your users?
     
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  2. malcolm1

    malcolm1 Prominent Member

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    Featured listings...

    well that can be a good thing for those with zero PR as most directories are set automatically for PR value so
    the new site gets the visabuility and also isnt located on page 7 or more so it gets indexed faster.


    Top Hits....

    i agree that we have the same bunch coming daily clicking thier own links just to climb to the top and sit on a PR page...
    that will soon be ellimanted in all of our directories and replaced with add catagory or something that brings some kind of value..

    Deep links

    I guess that is really up to the submitter... deep links have always been around but recently they have gotten more popularity
    since they do help in getting other inner pages found and indexed as well as a vote that that link actually pertains to the site
    and is correctly identified as such..

    thx
    malcolm
     
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  3. popotalk

    popotalk Notable Member

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    Thanks Creed. As for Dirsensei, recently I removed the deeplink options. If necessary and needed I will add them manually otherwise its just a simple featured and thats it. As an example I have placed deeplinks to this site since these are the important part of the site that needed to be visited.

    Thanks
     
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    loredan Well-Known Member

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    The top hits page seems to be the most abused these days. I wonder if it would be possible to set up "no follows" just for that page.
    I don't list the websites after PR as it is not fair for the new or low PR websites. If everyone pays the same price why should an already established site be on the first page and a new one on the 6th? It doesn't make any sense for my point of view, honestly...so I list them by the submission date (the newest first) . If your website goes to 4th page and you want extra exposure you should apply for a featured listing. Period.
    As for deeplinks mod...if it's so hard for some people to understand the way it works, imagine the contextual deeplink mod which I have installed on one of my directories. Oh, god...:)
     
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  5. Bernard

    Bernard Well-Known Member

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    Maybe calling them "most important (non-home) pages of the site" instead of "deep links" would help.
     
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  6. mikey1090

    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    #6
    Deep links - i would only allow these if they point to different pages, not other sites or same pages with stuffed keywords

    featured listings shouldnt allow for any extra rights, unless you have listed this.

    nofollow top links page then the PR lovers will leave. Perhaps the traffic gang will still abuse it tho:p
     
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    dargre Peon

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    Popo - you know I'm your friend, however this time I would not agree with you.
    Deep links can act same as resource links in Google that appear under some valuable (some call it 'authority') listings.
    However in my opinion resource links shouldn't pass PR using 'nofollow' or 'javascript'.

    Top Hits - my opinion is clear - completely useless, easy to manipulate, abusing.
     
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    Barefootsies Well-Known Member

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    Interesting read.
     
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    CReed Prominent Member

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    I'm sure that most do understand how it works and they're just abusing the feature. The ones that don't understand the option generally leave the fields blank.

    ;) I've removed the option from the submission form, but make editorial additions to "Interesting Pages" for some of the better sites with rich content.

    It's definitely a nice admin option.
     
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  10. DownUnder

    DownUnder Well-Known Member

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    Although i see the point being made in regards top hits, I find it hard to imagine people sitting there clicking thier links, especially if they are listed in 100's of directories, but then again i suppose it takes all types.

    its an option we are looking at, is there any known option to discount multiple counts clicked from the one computer in a similar way to dishing out green where the love must be shared ? and would could this be used if so ?
     
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    The Pheonix Banned

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    The concept of deep links is being used for entirely the wrong purpose, if people actually grasped how powerful this concept really can be then it wold definately be worthy of 'most important'. Gary and Frank from phpLynx are designing a business model which will demonstrate how to effectively use this feature, it looks a sure fire seller to me.
     
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    Not sure why people waste their money on directories anyway to be honest.
     
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    Notting Notable Member

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    #13
    Whoever left in my rep:

    "go do some research you fucking retard....THEY PROVIDE QUALITY RELEVANT BACKLINKS not like spamming digg or blogs..."

    you are one of the ones selling snake oil.

    Notting
     
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    DownUnder Well-Known Member

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    OT i thought it left your name when people used this function / comment ?

    anyway not surprised you coped that with your post in the directory section, surley you did not expect to be blown a kiss ?
     
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    britishguy Prominent Member

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    #15

    Whoever gave those comments please tell us who you are :eek:

    Notting

    Please post on this thread too

    http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=524002

    Thanks lets work together to clean up this category :)
     
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    What I am saying is deep link function is still present and intact at my directory and even the additional categories which you have installed. Those are great add ons. What I am saying is it is just not visible anymore in the submit form. If a website has needs for additional deeplinks then by all means we will add it for that purpose even the the additional categories. That is just a bonus from us for a site that deserves it. Otherwise its just a simple featured website.

    An example of this is in Shopping and Consumer Information Category too for the MOD you installed which is great.

    Also a deeplink for additional information which is a bonus added only if a site deserves it.

    All MODS are great but some abuse the deeplinks and the extra categories if visible.

    Just my take.

    :)
     
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  17. mikey1090

    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    #17
    There was no need for that, but you did have it coming.

    When you enter this forum you need to watch your back, there are some very immature people around here who only come to annoy others and spoil the forum.

    Next time you enter the directory category perhaps make a new thread if you wanted to slate paid directories, give facts and proof why you belive you are unsure why people submit to paid directories, and why you feel its a waste of money. Link building is one of the most important forms of SEO, and the most ethical way it can be done is by submitting to directories. Paid directories are no different to free except they charge to be there, whether its to be reviewed or listed. Paid directories generaly offer listed sites better "weight" as they have more strength themselves compared with free directories.
     
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  18. dargre

    dargre Peon

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    So you're wrong, as I noticed so many, maybe not clicking by hand...
    It's not so hard to build automated bot working behind proxy.
    It can spider hundreds of directories daily.
     
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    apparantly so, sad people to go to those extreems. but i suppose it happens.

    it seems the poor old directory owner plays a tough fiddle on one hand you can labelled with a bad rep for doing the wrong thing at times, then on the other try and do the right thing and some one else is abusing the system.
     
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  20. an0n

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    #20
    Dargre is definitely 100% correct with what he's saying. People do in fact play with the hits to try and get higher on top pages.

    I think a better resources for those pages would be personally hand-picked sites that the owner deems a 'top resource'


    also, take out this code from the main.tpl will stop the counting period:

    <script type="text/javascript">
    /* <![CDATA[ */
    var root = '{$smarty.const.DOC_ROOT}';
    {literal}
    var a = document.getElementsByTagName("a");
    for(i = 0; i< a.length; i++)
    if(a.id != '')
    a.onclick = count_link;
    function count_link() {
    i = new Image();
    i.src= root+'/cl.php?id='+this.id;
    return true;
    }
    {/literal}
    /* ]]> */
    </script>
     
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