DMOZ as an SEO/Linkbuilding tool, as claimed by an editor!

Well heck... it's not a perfect system, but at least in your case there was a happy ending.

 

Thanks flowers for the compliment and please sign your clan photo.

Now you can go back to your big 'mouth'-watering usual trolling, Flower of Texas.

 

Ohhhhh... this goes back to your mysterious comment about being in the service. D'oh! I get it. You were In The Navy.

 

Maybe on a sub? (submarine (a submersible boat), that is - not a sandwich)

<added explanation of a "sub", not to confuse jude with a condiment.>

 

I seem to recall some time ago Jude boasting of his time as a thug in Manila slum. That really puts this comment into perspective.

So much for the respectable businessman facade.

 

Yeah, I was a little surprised he had a login after that little statement... I laughed it off cause he's not the first psycho I've met, but most forums would've seen that as WAAY crossing a line.

Gotta feeling he'll be in the newspapers one day while TV crews compete to see who can get the most neighbors on camera saying..."Well he always sorta kept to hisself... quiet like, ya know, we never expected *this*."

Last guy I said that about was an agent from another company I ejected from my office for screaming like a maniac at a girl that worked for us. Two days later the guy robbed a bank and ended up in a prison psych ward. Dang I hate being right all the time.

 

I suppose discussing one "psycho" as you call it is much safer than discussing the other psychos that can fire you.
Since you are claiming to be so smart, does this mean that you see the problems but you close your eyes to it on purpose?

 

Doesn't take smarts to recognize his post as the product of a wannabe intimidator legend-in-his-own-mind psycho.

But no, I have no trouble addressing problems with those of higher privs. It'd be silly to do it here, I do it where it matters. You don't see it unless your "editall" tale is true, in which case you already KNOW I have a history of occasionally rubbing the brass the wrong way.

Face it, if they really were "psychos" they'd have removed my login years ago, but dissent of a constructive nature isn't considered a bad thing. There's little to be learned from those that always agree with you. Dissent done to affect improvements rather than snipe for fun hasn't rated pulling my plug. If it did, I'd move on. Making bitter posts elsewhere for a few years thereafter would be a waste of my time.

As for why I don't worry about the problems you see... I quit being scared of ghosts someone else suspects are hidden under the bed a long time ago.

 

He actually saw it for a while. He left to go sit under a tree and think. While pondering there he came to the conclusion that upholding what he believed in was profoundly pathetic. He did get up from under that tree, and rather then supporting what was right, he went back to being an editor.

His support for paid listings is clear within this thread, as his is acceptance of no warning system and no means of appeal. In fact, many of his true colors have come out here.

Though, what does it matter what I think. I'm just hiding behind a skirt Then again, if me sticking up for an injustice makes me weak or some type of glory seeker, what does that make one that supports the firing of an innocent editor? An editor they once called friend.

As for fearing those that can fire him, that is actually what I suspect took him so long to actually say that DMOZ was a paid directory, lol. Though, now that it's said maybe we should all report them to Google as such.

 

Hate to tell you how to do your job, but I think you're supposed to stick up for justice and oppose injustice.

Won't address the other inaccuracies since they've been answered several times, but since we're just gonna continuously relive the heroic saga of your amazingly selfless departure that by sheer coincidence occurred within 3 edits after you added your own site... how bout we turn the thread into a contest to design you a really neat cape?

Can't fight for truth justice and the American way without a proper super-cape. LOL

 

Ever hero needs a villain. Are you proud to be one of those? It's clear you feel I'm being the hero in this, so that means that DMOZ is the bad guy. You are an editor, that certainly does say a lot about you doesn't it?

You keep saying you've addressed the inaccuracies. I do not think you have, well other then proving that PAID listings are OK. Every time I bring them up you fall back on my edit counts.

If edit counts are proof of accuracy then I'm sure that Skrenta's 10k listings for TOPIX show that listing one's own sites are perfectly fine, and that DMOZ is in fact an SEO tool...

 

Not just your edit counts, just that you accuse others of self interest when you yourself arrived, added your site plus the 2 on your app, added 3 others, then bailed.

You have no room to accuse. The goofy excuse about absent FAQs ignores the fact that you MIRACULOUSLY managed to add your own site within 24 hours, but adding competitors was apparently hard to figure out.

Since you're sticking with the ruse you're something more than yet another putz that added his site and ran, here's a new icon for you. No charge. Enjoy.

 

I am not one to discourage someone with a dream. If your see yourself as some sort of masked crusader then I am all for it. You really need to work on this integrity thing though. I see that for the last few months you have been frantically trying to sell links in your sig. If you would do this sort of thing for small change it makes you wonder what else you would do. Sort of confirms the gentleman from Texas's thoughts on the real reasons you were at the the ODP. No self respecting super hero would prostitute himself in this way. Can't have superman with Viagra advertising on his cape can we?

 

How is it that selling sig links on a forum known for having members that sell sig links somehow worse then a FREE directory with PAID listings?

Besides, if I am a bad person, or wrong some how because I have paid listings, then, erm, how is DMOZ good with them? At least I am open and honest about the fact I sell links...can you say that DMOZ is?

So what you are saying is, that had I stayed around long enough to get all of my sites listed, then deep links from all of them listed like Skrenta, I'd be OK? I mean, I have listed one site out of six that was mine, and I am guilty of self interest. Then what does that say about the founding ethics of the directory? OVER TEN THOUSAND LISTINGS of a single site, and *I* am self motivated for listing one? Come on, if that was bad, it would be against the rules, lol.

Keep pointing this at me, and what I've done. I've not done anything wrong, other then miss a line in the guidelines that listings sites for SEO was fine and dandy. It does seem your only real complaint about me was that I left because I stood up for what I believe in, though oddly enough my timing was bad. Remember Mr. Jones, you left for the same reason I did ~ so put whatever twist you'd like on it. The difference is, you went back.

 

Oh Yeah, that's correct... the smears, self serving actions, the fact that you pose as an actual ex-editor, those are OK... my REAL objection is your incredible fortitude.

You realize if you keep doing that you'll go blind, right?

 

So, what you are saying is that I should ask for reinstatement like you did?

And nice job at ignoring the TOPIX issue, or the fact that you quit for the same reason I did. That would not be self serving would it? It really does seem that your only argument is my edit count. Don't you actually have something to say that can counter any of the points that I've brought up?

You say that Paid listings are fine, but listing one's own site is self serving. As you are seemingly not self serving, how much do you get paid?

 

Ask for reinstatement? Heck, you and I have such similar history (I have over 8 years, and you had over 8 weeks, I left and never logged into an outside forum, you've spent every day sharing the benefit of your inexperience) if they let me in they'd jump at getting a gem like you back. Hell, you added 6 sites to ODP... you're an authority, a man to respect even if he didn't read the guidelines while there.

And yep, I ignored your desire to discuss Topix. Discussed it with an ex-editor the other day, but I don't consider you one. Here's your one blurb on it... I've seen it and I've seen your record, and I prefer Skrenta's record to yours any day. He built something, you just put a site in and ran away.

Oh, I forgot, running away's a sign of bravery where you're from. What planet is that again?

 

My you are a confused little fellow. Now if the members of your occult forum started having URLs tattooed on their asses for a fee would you? I guess so according to your logic.

And in your time at the ODP when you were too busy manipulating your sites to pay much attention what was expected as an editor did you not realize that editors who charge for listing are removed, that webmasters who offer payment had their sites banned, and that editors who add low quality sites for their friends are removed. Perhaps you could tattoo that on your ass.

 

Now I am confused... are you saying that the guidelines are incorrect when they say that SEO professionals are OK so long as their work benefits both DMOZ and the editor?

Sorry, but that does mean that paid listings are OK.

 

Wahoo.. there is the understatement of the century.

If an editor can add quality sites to the directory which makes the directory better then that is a good thing. How can you not understand that?

Your are so focused on site promotion (and in particular your own sites and those who will pay you a few cents a day to have their URLs on your Sig and anywhere else that they want) that you do not have any understanding of what is the purpose of a directory other than as a site promotion tool.