Just wondering what everyone else thinks of Bush's latest comments on WWIII... I personally can't decide if he is actually dumb enough to accidnelty utter such words without thinking of the consequences or if he is trying to start the desensitization process to get the world ready for the horrors to come.
Very possible. If you have a little common sense and basic understanding, you'd come to this conclusion a long time ago.
I have more than a little common sense, and a fairly thorough understanding of whats going, however I figured most do not... and also.. for those that do... since you present yourself as one of them, do you think this is a signal that it is VERY close, perhaps the next few weeks?
I think not. It'll take a few more good months until actions will be taken against Iran. In this situation, this means not only the US and Iran will be at war, this also means Israel and Syria come into the mess right afterwards. Take in account all the other countries who will join either side - and you have yourself a crap load of countries involved in this mess. For Israel, it's a very crappy situation since if an attack on Iran does really occur - Israel is the first one to get bombed. Now, as a fact that Syria is Iran's little *uhm*, they'll attack Israel as well. Overall, it's better dealing with Iran NOW instead of regretting it later and be in a much more serious danger.
You sound like you agree with Bush's point of view... he too says that we only have two option... attack Iran now and get it over with... or let Iran execute their publicly stated plans to destroy Isreal, and then attack them.... Honestly I do not see what problem would really arrise from Iran obtaining Nuclear power... yes some measures should maybe be put in place to make sure they do not get niclear weapons... but honestly... although I do not agree with them in any way shape or form and think all countries should get rid of them... why the hell can they not have them?? Who decided they have the right to dictate who can and can't have nuclear technology? That point in itself is completely absurd.
Israel has a crap load of nukes. Does anyone really believe, in light of their recent strike on Syria (?) that they cannot defend themselves? Israel is just being used as another excuse for the Administration to maintain it's agenda of Middle East control. Like Yellow Cake, like WMDs, like Al Queda. Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program, at least one that the UN can ascertain. Do we really want to go on another tilting at windmills Don Quixote adventure in another country based around secretive intel that has not been properly scrutinized? What will we be saying 5 years from now about our inability to learn from the invasion of Iraq? In 2003, The Ayatollah Khameini (who is the Supreme Leader, above Ahmadinajad) tried to normalize relations with the US. Those attempts at diplomacy were rebuffed. I fear for all of us that Bush and his fellow executives are leading the world down a dangerous path, one that is going to claim a lot of lives, and create untold global hardship. On a pack of lies, and we'll be too lazy, too apathetic to give a sh1t until we our lifestyles are affected in a brutal and irreversible way.
agreed on everything and i hope by dealing you mean dialog. our policy seems to be we want iran to do exactly as we want or we can put them back 10 years. i propose to negotiate to achive a 10 year freeze in iranian activity. same result better way and in the following 10 years a policy like we did with china. by the way do you know anything about a group called one voice?
If Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapons program going on why be so secretive with the UN and the rest of the world if you have nothing to hide?
Why is Israel so secretive about their nuclear arsenal and refuses to join the Non-Proliferation Treaty? Each nation has a right to keep the extent of their national defense secret. They've got terror bombings in Pakistan, and they have nukes, and we don't seem to worried about that... A known state that sponsors Al Queda, the Taliban and terrorism.
Even if they do... who decides what country can and can not have nuclear weapons? Sure there is the atomic energy comittee or whatever they are called... but how can we be so sure their decisions are right? I think either all countries should have the same entitlement or no countries should have the right to have nuclear technology? How can we be so sure that the countries we allow to have nucs really have the best intentions for the people? We can't... yes we think we live fairly free in the Western world... but we really don't. Compared to some countries we do... but we still pretty much HAVE to do some things whether we want to or not.
Israel is secretive with its nuclear arsenal because if it comes out and says it has nuclear weapons its neighbors would want nuclear weapons also, the same neighbors who attacked Israel 6 times in a span of 40 years. The issue with Pakistan and its a concern in this stand point of what happens if the government is over thrown by Islamist? That's where Pakistanis nuclear weapons become a problem right now they are targeted at India not great but understandable. Also the issue arose with A.Q. Kahn and his willingness to share nuclear technology with anyone who came to him with a paycheck. Also once Iran has a nuclear bomb, how long before Hezbollah gets their hands on one?
no response for me? so there is no evidence but we must demand military action?! i think the whole thing is a game of chicken anyway.
Did you sleep over the day not so long ago when iranians allowed UN inspectors to visit their nuclear facilities ? What did inspectors say ? I guess this news item was not on "your tv" schedule which happened in September We sure saw El Baradei on our TVs Probably we watch IAEA more closely here since our countrymen was former chair of the board of governors in IAEA (2006). Guess we are informed and you are not and since this is the case we allow you to be ignorant
As someone who is living in Israel, i see a very big problem with Iran obtaining nuclear weapons. I'm concerned with Iran even without them getting these weapons. For people such as yourself, it's hard to understand and grasp the idea of living in a place where war could start any day, from any corner. I don't want Iran obtaining nuclear weapons, as do Bush and Putin. Why shouldn't Iran have the right for it and other do ? Think of it as life in society. Certain rights are being overruled by other rights. The safety of 2 or more countries is at stake because of Iran's reputation and untrustworthiness. They built their name like that. They finance terrorist organizations. A situation where you and a guy named Bob go out to buy a gun. Now Bob is known to be quite unstable. They test both of you if you can carry a gun, and decide that you can buy one, but Bob cannot. Bob has a right to make a gun license tho, but he cannot! Why ? Because he is unstable. Would you want someone like Bob to carry a gun ? Of course not, because it endangers many people around him, including you. Iran, in this example, is very unstable. Yeah.
Very good points DevilHellz... I guess sometimes us who life in safer, or atleast perceived safer countries tend not to see things from that vantage point. But.. I wasn't over pushing for Iran to have nukes... I would much rather prefer if all countries gave them up... the technology for energy is one thing.. but going ny farther than that... any counry should have sanctions placed against it... just think... could you imagine how screwed the US would be if China placed sanctions against it?? WOW
Wow, just wow what a bunch of crap. US financed afghan terrorists and equiped them with stingers during soviet intervention.... and what now ? I guess they built good reputation by doing that