To accept or not to accept?

I think you'll agree from my previous post that I don't go along with your claims of special or quality status.

And where do you see me BS'ing anyone?

No, it's not one of your sites. I never suggested it was. Scoring cheap points? I'm only stating a fact that it's listed in what you've been referring to as a quality niche directory you own. Nice addition. If this is representative of what you consider to be a user friendly or a quality resource, then I'm wondering what you're doing training anyone.

Before you start complaining about the stench from the neighbors, you might want to make sure you're not knee deep is shit yourself.

But just as I've suggested you do, I won't be using your resources or your services. I don't have a problem if you're not accountable to anyone, regardless of your claims of only accepting quality sites and having long term value.

 

But why are you wriggling like a stuck pig?

That's a good example of what I am talking about. You don't appear to be terminally stupid so all it can be is a deliberate attempt to twist fiction into fact. Are you a Nigerian by any chance?

You mention a site we have nothing to do with and use that to rubbish the directory in my signature. That's the only one that I have claimed is being developed as a quality resource. The rest of our workshop sites do offer long term value and as such quality back links. But there is a subtle difference which has obviously escaped you.

When I first started in this business I never believed that people such as this existed let alone are capable of holding an industry to ransom. I took advice, made some mistakes and then started thinking for myself. Which directory are you talking about? And whilst you are about it try giving me a straight answer to some direct questions.

Do you or don't you believe that Google has said selling PR is a bad business practise?
Do you or don't you believe that Google is intent on putting a stop to that and other similar schemes?
Do you or don't you believe that listing affiliate content is something to be encouraged.

Would it have anything to do with the fact that after you PM'ed me I asked you why you wanted our list which appeared to hit a raw nerve.

 

Wriggling? Far from it. I'm quite comfortable in my skin.

But thanks for suggesting that I'm a spammer, con artist and scammer.

I think I mentioned at the time my reasons for my interest in your directories - I'm always lookling for quality resources where I can promote my own and my clients sites. But I'm sure if you review those PMs, it'll reveal quite a different picture than what you're trying to paint. After seeing the crap such as that above listed there, I think you know why I have no interest.

I think I'll leave this where it's at - it's rather tiresome when someone continues to edit ther posts after I've replied. Is it an attempt to appear witty? or just score some cheap points?

I'll give you the last word - it seems to be all you're interested in.

Cheers.

 

I would put it on hold and tell them to fix the bugs 1st.

 

It's your decision but I think you should accept.

 

Not so. I asked you why you were interested in our list and you lost interest. How do I know? I know because you told me so.

I have accused you of being deliberately dishonest. That's a matter of record but as for the rest I cant get a straight answer out of you. All you appear to be interested in is having a dig a me instead of discussing issues which I believe are very relevant. Besides being a space cadet what does that make you?

 

The issues I'm bringing up seem to strike a nerve with you and you choose to avoid discussing them.

Having a dig? Nah, I'm just trying to figure out how you're comfortable peddling links (quality links according to you) while accusing others of listing the same crap I'm finding in your directory.

Rather than address what's on your plate, you like to avoid questions tossed your way by responding with a question. Enjoy the personal attacks and name calling. It's what I'd expect you to resort to.

The more wriggling you do, the more you bleed.

If you want to continue to make it personal, You can find me on Yahoo messenger.

 

C;mon guys, lets make this civil. If you disagree with each other do as I do and agree to disagree. I can' stand some of the posters here as they can't stand me, but I deal with it. The only time you can really make it really personal is if you squared up to each other physically and truth be known most of you wouldn't dare if you saw each other.

@Workshop; I agee with an awful lot of what you say and quite often support your threads, the problem is you've already conceded that sometimes its like hitting your head against a brick wall, some people will never change, don't try to change them is how I see it.

 

dont we all ... hehehe

I agree but thiers just not much that can scare away a 6'2 265 pound man either

in the words off rodney king during the LA riots...

Cant we All just....... Get Along

Regardless ... ive got to much work today online and family coming from out of town so
need to get stuff done around here myself

see yaz
malcolm1

 

lol; your too funny, but at least its stopped the bitchin at least for a while.

 

This is nothing more than an exercise for us. A field trip and a live example of what to expect and what to look out for. Monkey men like anOn are as transparent as the light of day but this one intrigues me. We discuss him, we debate him, prod, poke and dissect him. But who is he and what's his beef? Weaned on vinegar no doubt and a bad sport (GO BOKKE GO!) to boot but for the life of me I cant place him.

I just wish you would be a little more specific. But thanks you have finally taken the bait and you are flip-flopping around the point I want to make. There is a difference, a BIG difference. We are not trying fool anyone. Or put another way, we don't lie. There is no need. Everyone knows that one directory has the same value as the next irrespective of how many goo-gaahs you add or how you try to disguise the fact that we are all just selling links. Even Google knows this and they are quite happy to accept it as long as we only charge for the review and not the placement of a link. This distinction is important because it goes to the root of what we refer to loosely as "editorial integrity". And its always the team that plays the tightest game that takes the cup back home with them. Better luck next time sunshine. Maybe you guys need to bone up on your match play strategy. Are you looking for a new coach perhaps? You have to be English. No one else could be so anally retentive and still lose it when it gets to the critical points.

Whatever to get back to the issue at hand we set up and run crap directories. That is, if by crap directories you mean a default script and empty categories besides the handpicked topic specific quality content our soon to be directory owners are adding in order to build a useful resource. That is if you mean crap directories that offer back links with genuine long term value and a very very reasonable review fee. What is wrong with this? If we stick to our original game plan (sorry couldn't resist it) absolutely nothing or do you disagree?

My point is that window dressing is just that. The bad guys call it "promoting your directory" whereas I call it "deliberate misrepresentation". Dress it in a suit comb its hair and think you can call a fu*king shovel a garden troll. No ways. A lie is still a lie no matter how you twist and turn it. We are deliberately exposing ourselves. We want to stick out like a dogs ball and all we are saying is that we are different. We are honest about what we are doing. We don't lie and we will look after anyone who is stupid enough to submit to and get their sites accepted by one of our directory masters. What's wrong with that?

But that's not what you were getting at, is it?

Forgive me but you are quite right. What you are alluding to is the fact that we have listed some dodgy content in a few of the directories I set up before I learnt that you cant trust anyone, not even the prim and proper types. This despite the fact I have already told you that those are workshop sites that offer quality long term back links because they will developed as a quality resource once we get the time to clear out all the spam we got flooded with when we offered free and reciprocal linking options. No doubt by some of your mates who strut about this forum with peacock feathers stuck up their backside. In fact if I am not mistaken there was a pom I would give my eye teeth to have a one on one with. It wasn't you by any chance? Is that why you know so much about our directories? Who are your clients by the way?

But what really staggers me is how shameless and how utterly brazen you are. You gloss over outright fibs without so much as batting an eyelid. I called you on the PM's we exchanged and despite the fact you have been exposed as a liar it means nothing to you. Where do you come from?

 

HAHAHAHHHAA...

 

We do debate issues, we don't always agree. I lost this one and am now paying the price. Thanks mate. You blew it for me

 

Here is another one I am not sure how to deal with www.corsicatravelguide.com ? Is it MFA? Is it a shop window? Is it useful? Would you add it to a directory committed to listing quality sites only?

 

It appears you're getting tested with these sites, be careful whether you accept them or not.

On the other hand, it appears you need to a lot of help deciding what's bad or good (which only exists in our minds)

If I were you, I would accept it and move on to the next listings. I think is more important to look at what that site can become in the future. You can also warm them about your guidelines in case the site become unacceptable.

 

Not sure if anybody noticed, but the text in the footer scrolly has changed since this thread began. Who owns this site anyway?

 

The problem we have is setting guidelines for first time directory masters and its turning into a monster. A lot of this is pure gut feel and experience and given recent developments in the industry, our policy is move on to the next site if in doubt. But should a directory master relax these criteria when reviewing paid submissions?

I don't know. And yes I am busy tying myself up in knots. Is there anything wrong with someone "marketing" goods and services as a third party? Why is affiliate marketing considered to be anti-social in certain circles?

I haven't checked but just thought it interesting that someone so new to directories picked it out and felt the need to ask whether there is a real service being offered or whether in his words its work in progress and questionable intent.