DMOZ as an SEO/Linkbuilding tool, as claimed by an editor!

You are the type of person that probably runs away every time there is a difficulty but not everyone is the same. I am not tearing the directory apart, I am tearing the corruption and abuse and the culture that permit and encourages it. Are you saying that fighting the abuse and trying to implement procedures that stop the abuse, is the same is as destroying the directory? Is this what DMOZ is for you, a collection of abusive behaviors that benefits the editors?

I can certainly understand why you and your friends want me gone. Why shouldn't you? As a trouble maker who shows the abuse and some one who is pushing down the prices for DMOZ listings, I am surely not popular among your group and you will be more than happy when business can continue as usual with no interruption from my side. Unfortunately for you, I am not concerned with your happiness.

 

Show me where I've said the directory itself was bad.

I've stated several times that there are several problems with it, but never that it was bad, or that it's listings were bad, though granted, there is some evidence to support it may not be all that good.

So before you go on and put words in my mouth by saying I think the place is bad, maybe you should consider what I'm actually pointing at. But then, it does not really matter does it? You don't care what I think, and what I've been talking about you seemingly support.

10,000++ sites by a single editor, all from the same domain, all deep linked. Why isn't that considered abuse? Especially when the finger is pointed at me for listing ONE site.

No official warning system. A closed system of justice, where not even the accused is not told what the problem is, and once they are fired there is no means of appeal.

And in the case of this thread: Paid listings being OK according to the guidelines of a FREE directory.


So go on, point the finger at me. I'm not all that much of an ex-ed, I only had a handful of edits, but it does seem my voice was heard, you replied didn't you? Now tell me I'm wrong, go on, try it. You've already agreed that the points I've made are true.

 

Well… just a wee while before joining the ODP posted this here at DP

Seems odd that you are now saying that you never thought the directory was “bad”.

You really are one of the most pathetic fifth columnists ever, you announce your dastardly plans, once on the inside you forget about your mission and spend your time “tweaking” your own websites, then you start posting in the internal forums about a perceived injustice, and just as people might start listening to you, you quit in a snot like a child who does not get their way. Now you are flip flopping all over the place showing that when you were an editor you were too interested in working out the best way to promote your site and not bothering to read guidelines and trying to understand what being an editor was actually about.

 

I said that we needed to act in unison against a project that by all acounts was not, and likely would not function. If you date that quote of mine you'll see that it was in the middle of the crash. Ya know, the time where DMOZ was down for months, yet no one really bothered to give official word, or keep the end user updated about what was happening. At the time DMOZ SUCKED, there is no question about it, it was not working, and not working for MONTHS. You want to tell me that it was worth it to keep around in places like Google and Alexa when it was dead by most accounts, even by DMOZ accounts? Sorry, once again, I was calling it like it is.

Though, it does not really matter does it? I could pull something that you've said publicly that supports the project, but sadly NOTHING exists of that nature. You are a troll through and through, and not once (not even a single time) have you helped a single person here. Now go on, call me a troll again. You are more vial then I have ever been. Deny it if you wish, but prove me wrong.

 

You really come up up some humdingers Qryztufre. I categorically deny that I have never been, nor will I ever be, a small bottle containing medicine.

I don’t believe that I have ever called you a troll. I can recall using a wide range of adjectives to describe you but not that particular word. Depiction of your antics does not require the use of that hackneyed word.

 

Yep, I type to fast sometimes and when the words are missing that little red underline I often pass them by as OK. It does not matter though does it. You've still yet to help a single person here. Not once have you said kind words to a submitter, webmaster, and in many cases even editors. You are here to troll and call names. Now deny that, any one looking through your posting history here will know just what you are, regardless of spelling.

 

Oh yeah I forgot about this

I did date it ---> 20 March 2007 which was several several months after the crash. Your explanation is pure Qryztufre flim flam.

 

Why not give the entire post if you want to shed me into a bad light.

Was anything written there untrue? Have I changed from my ways of thinking? Have I really flip-flopped? It's the exact same complaints I have now. it's not my fault that editors don't need to bother with listing sites, and if all the sites that use ODP data knew just what they were using, maybe they could get changes to take place. It's clear that DMOZ does not care what ex-editors say, or even submitters. What about those that keep it running?

 

Firstly how about dealing with the date issue and why you told us earlier that this was all written during the crash? Were your words true or false?

Secondly those who keep it running are staff and editors. If you are suggesting that webmasters do that, then try taking all staff and editors away and see what happens. Its a bit like the guy with the nice garden who was told that nature was beautiful and he replied well nature didn't do too well with it when it had it on its own.

You know well that the directory has always been compiled for the surfer, now SEO's do surfing too, so when they are seekers we try to serve them, but when they feel their web sites should be listed and we don't, they think they know better what our directory needs more than we do. Often then acusing us of being corrupt because they can't get their sites listed and feeding on the sort of negativety that your posts often contain about the directory.

I wouldn't persoanlly re-quote a post that talks about me running away and a comment to gworld. Have I ever said ODP was perfect? And am I still with it years later. It takes determination to stay onboard when something seems to have gone very wrong, its easy to come to a place like this and join those who sling mud at the directory, after a paddy and left. My comments to you are that you too feed the negaitivety and if you are an editor then to bleat here does not achieve anything, being constructive with comments internally may help achieve change for the future. But I don't think you can really bat for both sides and achieve anything.

I think, Q, when you left and the way you now seemingly want to exploit any nuance that puts ODP in a bad light means you have put yourself in a place where you will never be able to influence the way ahead for ODP.

 

Is this a new way of posting? You quote my post, remove everything that I posted and then paste a sentence from Qryztufre post and then you answer it.

It depends what do you do onboard, it doesn't take that much determination to be in compliance with everything that is wrong. It is obvious to anyone that there is no mechanism for change inside DMOZ and if you don't do thing, how long will it be before you become part of the problem and the community that have gone very wrong?

 

Hell, this squabbling isn't accomplishing anything, what say we just all meet behind the church across the street after 6th period and settle this once and for all. Knives and chains are cool, but no firearms... might attract attention.

 

I actually think that is a multi-quote bug in vBulletin. At least I've had something similar happen to me here were I was going to reply in one thread, so I clicked the multi-quote button, changed my mind, and then that quote showed up in the next thread I replied in, but with the wrong lines in it *shrug* Either way, I'm sure that he didn't mean to put my words in your mouth

 

Haven't got into that practice in a long while, last one was in Desert Storm 1, I could need one to sharpen my skills and can have a little bit of exercise. (I still live in Maryland )

I love cowboys specially rare.

 

That may be more information than we needed Mr Gyllenhaal, but if you decide to sharpen those Desert Storm skills, Marines have always been happy to help Army boys out.

 

Whatever you say Texas Man. You talk a lot (that is great for a real estate agent) and that is not good for a bulky tall cowboy man like you, too much talk is hollywood and half males if you know what i mean. Anyway your all the same, big guys make a big sound when they fall to the ground and bleed a hell of a lot when you cut their throats. Just FYI.

Sorry you can do better in guessing. Not a Marine or Army but retired.

 

Well at least it's nice to see you don't take jokes personally. Lemme know when they get those meds balanced big fella.

 

Thats nice and i will ask my physician to increase my dosage, thanks for the reminder Mr. Rob Jones or is it Lance Bass ?

 

May be the admin heard you talking when she was going around telling people that organized crime is involved in DMOZ and editors should not say anything or complain about some "special" links.

 

BTW - Was that retired thing in the military anything like the "retired from Dmoz" you mention on your website?

Never actually met anyone that was court martialed.

 

Actually Mr. Lance Bass if you refer to my being court martialed in DMOZ, though I really am a bad person for speaking garbage against the criminals of DMOZ, court martial is where I get a chance to defend myself even on a losing situation. While burn notice is a total shutdown.

There is a difference and most if not all of us were deprived of that.