Poll ~ The Flood & Noah's Ark ~ Fact or Fiction?

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Flood and Noah's Ark ~ Fact or Fiction?

  1. Fact

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  2. Fiction

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  3. Not Sure

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  1. #1
    Let's see some discussion over this event. Please keep the discussion decent and not hostile. You know the reasons why!

    Col :)
     
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  2. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #2
    I'd have to say a nice story, but obviously fiction and or at least hugely over embelished.
     
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  3. iul

    iul Well-Known Member

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    #3
    do you actually believe noah gathered all the animals on a boat?
     
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  4. proteindude

    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #4
    Do you know how humangously big the ark was?
     
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  5. judetheobscure

    judetheobscure Peon

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    #5
    there was no ark containing a pair of every animals on earth.
    elvis is not still alive.
    the jews were not responsible for 9/11.
    there were no little green men at roswell.
    is there a reality pill that proteindude can take?
     
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  6. SeagullSid

    SeagullSid Active Member

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    #6
    IMO it's fiction, and I'm amazed (and slightly frightened) that people can believe it's fact. Ditto the creation story in Genesis.
     
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  7. SeagullSid

    SeagullSid Active Member

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    #7
    There is a church in Brighton, St Bartholmews, which is built to the exact size of the Ark as described in the bible - although it's upside down (obviously) so that the keel is the roof. It's the largest brick-built church in Europe, but it's not 'humungously' big.


    PS - To those who do believe it's fact - did light have a visible spectrum before the flood?
     
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  8. judetheobscure

    judetheobscure Peon

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    #8
    i thought it had long been realised, even by religious types, that back when the bible was written 'story telling' was the only way to impart information due to the fact that only the very privileged few could read, and that in order to keep the listeners attention the story teller had to use his/her imagination to make the information they were imparting interesting enough. in the old testament especially this art form is used to impart religious doctrine.
    how can anyone today not see that?
     
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  9. MattUK

    MattUK Notable Member

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    How did polar bears and penguins get to the Middle East?
     
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  10. proteindude

    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    Consider this: only 11% of land animals are bigger in size than sheep. So I see no problem fitting two of each living animals on the ark.
     
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  11. SeagullSid

    SeagullSid Active Member

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    #11
    What about the food? What about the rainbow? (As per my earlier post) What happened to all the freshwater fish when the seas rose?

    I know I'm not going to convince you, so don't worry about answers. I only ask those questions because if you believe the bible literally then you do have to jump through all sorts of hoops in order to justify the impossible.

    As the Red Queen said to Alice in 'Through the Looking Glass': "I always like to try and believe three impossible things before breakfast."
     
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    MattUK Notable Member

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    #12
    Have you got any idea just how many species of animals there are on the earth? Some estimates are between 50-100 MILLION!

    This makes a good read,
    http://www.skepticreport.com/creationism/noahark.htm

     
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  13. proteindude

    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    #13
    Well if you consider most of the animals would have been in the dark I would think a lot of them would have been hybernating which would have given Noah enough time to feed them all.

    There was a lot of fresh water in a sense if you consider it was raining for around 40 days.

    You know what summed it up for me that the "scientists" are more twisted than anyone when their beliefs are challenged by anyone with any logic?? I'll tell you anyway: according to science the moon was at some stage fully covered in water. This is despite no one ever finding one drop of water on the moon.

    At the same time you have Earth currently covered 70% in water. YET, scientists do not believe that there ever was a worldwide flood such as the one mentioned in the Bible in the time of Noah.

    So not a drop of water ever found on the moon YET scientists believe it was fully covered in water at some stage.

    The Earth is 70% covered in water YET scientists don't think it was ever fully covered in water.

    This is why as a logic loving individual I cannot accept "scientific" proof.
     
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    Even if 50% of the animals were hibernating (which they don't) and Noah spent just one minute feeding and watering each animal (which he wouldn't of) it would have taken him almost 4 years to make one round of all of the animals. I'm pretty surte most would die of starvation within a few days.

    How was this fresh water collected?

    Again, my question which you also haven't answered,

    How did polar bears and penguins get to the Middle East?
     
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    proteindude Well-Known Member

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    There is evidence there were lions in the middle east even though there hasn't ever been a lion spotted in the middle east.

    I am sure polar bears would have gotten to the middle east the same way all animals did: walking. There are animals that have an instinct which helps them preserve themselves in various situations. It could be that this instinct directed them to get to the ark or it could be divine intervention.
     
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  16. judetheobscure

    judetheobscure Peon

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    #16
    come on dude this has got to be a joke.
    i mean reading the bible and believing in the messages it contains is one thing but actually believing the stories behind those messages is sheer lunacy.
    even true christians will accept that these are just stories to put across an important message.
    i think you must be winding us up.;)
     
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    #17
    If i remember right, there's animal so deep down in the sea that if you bring them up to the surface they like.. i don't know how to explain it, they just fall apart.
    Now since Noah took 2 of every animal, and if i remember right you don't believe in evolution, (god made the creatures, no evolving etc)
    How did Noah manage to do that?
    Notice i haven't read this story, i take what you have said in this thread, noah took 2 of every animal, fishes are animals right? Lets not be animal racist :(
     
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  18. judetheobscure

    judetheobscure Peon

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    ah the old 'divine intervention' that spirits polar bears halfway across the world!
    no arguing with that then!
     
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    Did I ask about lions???

    ROFLOL!!!!!!!!

    Right, let me get this straight, the animals WALKED (????!!??) across the sea, and for 3500 miles (the distance from Greenland to Turkey)
     
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    iul Well-Known Member

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    #20
    how did the north american, south american and australian animals walked to the middle east?
     
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