Journalists debunk Ron Paul popularity

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  1. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #101
    Yes, the whole site is a joke.
     
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  2. Zibblu

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    #102
    I read a few more pages and got that.. yes. It is kind of funny. When I was first reading it, I was like WTF? These people can't be serious? And ... sure enough, they aren't. It's a pretty good send up of the type of lunatics that would actually support fred thompson. (no offense if anyone reading this happens to be one of these lunatics.)
     
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    #103
    You bring up a good point
    • We have several obvious Neo-cons and war supporters here, but...
    • They don't seem to be excited about any candidate.
    • Ron Paul has very weak opposition :)

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    #104
    It's perfect!

    I have been reading around and a whole heap of neocon supporting lunatics are taking it at face value.

    That is not surprising though as many of these fools will support these neocon fools without even thinking of the consequences. :rolleyes:
     
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  5. ReadyToGo

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    #105
    No, it shifted the power (to issue silver certificates) from the president to the Secretary of the Treasury, who halted redemption of Silver Certificates. You have to understand Executive Order 10289 first because that's what Executive Order 11110 amends (and this should be obvious if you've actually read E.O. 11110). Do you see where E.O. 11110 says "(a) By adding at the end of paragraph 1 thereof the following subparagraph (j)"? Here's paragraph (j):
    "The authority vested in the President by paragraph (b) of section 43 of the Act of May 12, 1933, as amended (31 U.S.C. 821 (b)), to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury not then held for redemption of any outstanding silver certificates, to prescribe the denominations of such silver certificates, and to coin standard silver dollars and subsidiary silver currency for their redemption,"
    This is added to the section of E.O.10289 which states: "The Secretary of the Treasury is hereby designated and empowered to perform the following-described functions of the President without the approval, ratification, or other action of the President"
    The result was Silver Certificates being replaced with Federal Reserve Notes.
     
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    #106
    Wrong answer. The EO actually caused more US Notes to be printed in $10 and $20 dollar denominations, however they were never circulated. Once Kennedy was assassinated, the US Notes came out of circulation, ending in 1971.

    Read it again. The President transferred authority to the Treasurer to issue US Notes, without Presidential authorization.

    US Notes are still legal tender today. Redemption has never been stopped.

    Silver certificates (aka US Notes) traded concurrently with FRNs. Check the timeline.

    Kennedy specifically brought this about to reduce power to the Fed. To this day, that EO is still active, and a Treasurer could again issue US Notes if he so chose.

    Do you work for the Fed or something? You're a big time apologist for them. I'm trying to understand what your motivation could be for constantly assaulting the arguments I have made, even when I repel those arguments over and over.
     
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    #107
    United State Notes are not Silver Certificates. Both US Notes and Federal Reserve Notes were redeemable for silver at one point. Does that mean Federal Reserve Notes are also Silver Certificates? No, of course not. US Notes and Federal Reserve Notes are both fiat money. Redemption of Silver Certificates ended in March 1964.

    Executive Order 11110 is no longer active. Reagan amended Executive Order 10289 with Executive Order 12608. Again, US Notes are not Silver Certificates.

    Claiming victory yourself over and over will only make you look pathetic to the eyes of the readers, and will not add substance to your argument. You can't prove someone wrong using false evidence which is what you've been doing. Let's stick to the subject at hand.
     
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  8. Will.Spencer

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    #108
    I don't think he's doing it on purpose.

    He's a true believer.
     
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