I've been pondering getting some sites into a 3 (or more) way link exchange. I can see the value if sites are somewhat relevant and if it was a triangle relation (A links to B, B to C, C to A). If there is a network the links could be site 101 links to site 20034, site 20034 links to site 8954 and site 567934 links to 101, I could see it working while not being obvious. No three way link just a lot of site linking evenly to a lot of other sites. Google will be able to sense the triangle links, that's easy. Are there networks using an even number of relevant links?
Hi just read your post while checking out digital point I am not certain if you are saying google does detect or can detect 3 way links as my experience tells me they don't currently detect it. Whether they can or not or will in the future I cannot say. But I have experimented with a 3 way linking network http://tinyurl.com/yu29zz for the last 2 mths and I am stunned by the results. As an experiment we started a new web site from scratch only bought domain 8/7/07 put it in network on 9/8/07 with only a few pages indexed by 13th all 49 pages indexed, by 19th a minor keyword was already ranking 1 and 2 in google with our 3rd at 11th. Last time I looked 3/9/07 primary and 3rd keyword both page 1 and secondary page 2. So I am a happy bunny with this network ;-) So far what I have found is if you get your keyword balance correct this will rockets you up the rankings. So hope that helps oh! by the way if you do visit the link above it is my affiliate link. Saludos Ian
Ian, Does that network actually do 3 way links? Does your site link to site B which links to site C which links back to you? Are links from relevant sites?
Anyone that knows anything about Google would know that much. Do you have any input on the system Ian mentioned?
Hi Yes the links are 3 way as you describe. At the moment they are not necessarily related but you do choose your cataegory and as the network expands jon will move towards related sites. But most of what I hear in forums is utter nonsense and hearsay with no real proof. "i'm sure that google can understand all types of the link exchanges" maybe, maybe not: I like to see proof (it's the engineer in me) and I haven't seen it. I can only tell you my results with this network (see my first post) today for this domain we are 8th for our primary keyword, 15th for our secondary and 3rd for our tertiary, and 1 & 2 for a minor untargeted keyword and not all the links are live yet. As I said I have found that the most important is the right combination of keywords and the balance with the competition. The only thing we did at first is to blog it a bit to get it indexed (as you have to have at least 2 pages indexed to have your sites approved) our next plan next week is to write 15 articles and send them to ezine and goarticle with links to the inside pages Hope that answers you question saludos Ian
I think it is easy to do, I can see how they could index external links in a site and do a query that would capture several layers of external links. I can almost see the SQL statement in my head. I also see similar connections between entities in LinkedIn.com where it will show information on another user and states that we have a common connection or we are two degrees apart. So I don't think it's hard to sort out who is in some sort of link loop with another. It would only be hard to determine the intent of the links. Years ago I linked to www.seobook.com from a personal site, recently SeoBook linked to another one of my sites. My sites are linked to each other. Should Google penalize or value these links, my description would say yes but links to a bot don't carry my story behind the motive of linking.
hi. Yes like you I can see how to do it: But do they? and with the number of web sites that they crawl each day could they muster the computing power to do it, that would be another question. Although I'm sure that even that wouldn't be insumountable. But I think the real question would be how do you determine which ones are doing it deliberately and just for position. I mean how many millions of sites link this way without knowing it, would they neccessarily know that the site they are linking to happens to link to another site that happens to be linking to them, and of course the more related the sites the more likely that is going to happen naturally. Saludos Ian
I have tried a few free one but wasn't impressed. link metro has a free account but this is reciplical links but is relative and works quite well. But I have found nothing that works as well as this network (http://offto.net/3linkit) and when you consider that you can get 250 effectively one way links to each of 50 sites. For your 47 bucks a month. Thats less than a dollar a month for each site, go try to buy just one link for that. But anyway just one very poor site will pay for it. Saludos Ian
And one other thing if you have pr 4 or above sites then these don't count towards your 50 quota. Ian
I think this the one I tried for a free trial. It put my site from #33 to #9 for a specific keyword. But the trial is over, my site is still #9 though. I just can't pay $47/month...
There never was a free TRIAL with this network only beta testers and if you was a beta tester then you still have your account. But if you are no. 9 in google and you are not making 47 bucks a month, then I would question your keyword research or conversion. I see people linking to me with keywords that you could rank for with a few well aimed articles. But guess what nobody searches for them. No. 1 but no traffic and no money. On the other hand I also see keywords that even the no. 10 in google has 3000 links in, well UNLESS you are going to do an awful lot of other link gathering this network will not rank you for love nor money. But thankfully they are in the minority. If you get the balance right between search volume, and competion for the keyword then even one site will pay for it.(it really isn't that difficult) and there is a pdf guide on how and in the forum there is a very good post on how to choose your keywords by ken. So then if you do the above right it becomes, in my opinion, how can I afford not to. Saludos Ian
Of course they can. They catalog who links to who. It's not hard to query a database then to see groups of sites that link within themselves. It doesn't help that link exchanges are often set aside outside of the page copy and some times listed as resource, partners, or links.
I have been following this thread for a while and i dont seem to get to the bottom of it. First there was a suggestion about 3-linking .... and later am told that 3-way linking doesnt help .... Hmmm... can anyone show me a tried-and-tested way of going about it. cheers