Again,again and again THERE WAS NO PEACE AGREEMENT SIGNED AFTER 6 DAYS WAR! Stop repeating lie or shows us that frigin' agreement. You can't because it doesn't exists. UN resolution is far away for it and funny how when suits your agenda they UN resolutions are cool thing in all other cases UN is "As you well know, the UN General Assembly is completely dominated by OIC countries. Most of these countries are in favor of the complete destruction of Israel.As such, it is a completely biased body with no hope of acting to resolve this conflict." Double standards anyone? Ceasefire means what it means: temporary stopping with war and you simply can understand that or won't because that doesn't fit into your agenda. You are claiming that Arabs made commitment to resolution 236 and that is legal agreement that should be followed so how about resolution 242 that followed 236? Is that resolution legal agreement that should have been followed by Israel? So what's the diference beetwen Israel and Arabs in terms of UN resolutions? Let's check how many of them Israel followed: # * Resolution 106: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for Gaza raid". # * Resolution 111: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for raid on Syria that killed fifty-six people". # * Resolution 127: " . . . 'recommends' Israel suspends it's 'no-man's zone' in Jerusalem". # * Resolution 162: " . . . 'urges' Israel to comply with UN decisions". # * Resolution 171: " . . . determines flagrant violations' by Israel in its attack on Syria". # * Resolution 228: " . . . 'censures' Israel for its attack on Samu in the West Bank, then under Jordanian control". # * Resolution 237: " . . . 'urges' Israel to allow return of new 1967 Palestinian refugees". # * Resolution 248: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for its massive attack on Karameh in Jordan". # * Resolution 250: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to refrain from holding military parade in Jerusalem". # * Resolution 251: " . . . 'deeply deplores' Israeli military parade in Jerusalem in defiance of Resolution 250". # * Resolution 252: " . . . 'declares invalid' Israel's acts to unify Jerusalem as Jewish capital". # * Resolution 256: " . . . 'condemns' Israeli raids on Jordan as 'flagrant violation". # * Resolution 259: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to accept UN mission to probe occupation". # * Resolution 262: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for attack on Beirut airport". # * Resolution 265: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for air attacks for Salt in Jordan". # * Resolution 267: " . . . 'censures' Israel for administrative acts to change the status of Jerusalem". # *Resolution 270: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for air attacks on villages in southern Lebanon". # * Resolution 271: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's failure to obey UN resolutions on Jerusalem". # * Resolution 279: " . . . 'demands' withdrawal of Israeli forces from Lebanon". # * Resolution 280: " . . . 'condemns' Israeli's attacks against Lebanon". # * Resolution 285: " . . . 'demands' immediate Israeli withdrawal form Lebanon". # * Resolution 298: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's changing of the status of Jerusalem". # * Resolution 313: " . . . 'demands' that Israel stop attacks against Lebanon". # * Resolution 316: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for repeated attacks on Lebanon". # * Resolution 317: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to release Arabs abducted in Lebanon". # * Resolution 332: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's repeated attacks against Lebanon". # * Resolution 337: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for violating Lebanon's sovereignty". # * Resolution 347: " . . . 'condemns' Israeli attacks on Lebanon". # * Resolution 425: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to withdraw its forces from Lebanon". # * Resolution 427: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to complete its withdrawal from Lebanon. # * Resolution 444: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's lack of cooperation with UN peacekeeping forces". # * Resolution 446: " . . . 'determines' that Israeli settlements are a 'serious # obstruction' to peace and calls on Israel to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention". # * Resolution 450: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to stop attacking Lebanon". # * Resolution 452: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to cease building settlements in occupied territories". # * Resolution 465: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's settlements and asks all member # states not to assist Israel's settlements program". # * Resolution 467: " . . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's military intervention in Lebanon". # * Resolution 468: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to rescind illegal expulsions of # two Palestinian mayors and a judge and to facilitate their return". # * Resolution 469: " . . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's failure to observe the # council's order not to deport Palestinians". # * Resolution 471: " . . . 'expresses deep concern' at Israel's failure to abide # by the Fourth Geneva Convention". # * Resolution 476: " . . . 'reiterates' that Israel's claim to Jerusalem are 'null and void'". # * Resolution 478: " . . . 'censures (Israel) in the strongest terms' for its # claim to Jerusalem in its 'Basic Law'". # * Resolution 484: " . . . 'declares it imperative' that Israel re-admit two deported # Palestinian mayors". # * Resolution 487: " . . . 'strongly condemns' Israel for its attack on Iraq's # nuclear facility". # * Resolution 497: " . . . 'decides' that Israel's annexation of Syria's Golan # Heights is 'null and void' and demands that Israel rescinds its decision forthwith". # * Resolution 498: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to withdraw from Lebanon". # * Resolution 501: " . . . 'calls' on Israel to stop attacks against Lebanon and withdraw its troops". # * Resolution 509: " . . . 'demands' that Israel withdraw its forces forthwith and unconditionally from Lebanon". # * Resolution 515: " . . . 'demands' that Israel lift its siege of Beirut and # allow food supplies to be brought in". # * Resolution 517: " . . . 'censures' Israel for failing to obey UN resolutions # and demands that Israel withdraw its forces from Lebanon". # * Resolution 518: " . . . 'demands' that Israel cooperate fully with UN forces in Lebanon". # * Resolution 520: " . . . 'condemns' Israel's attack into West Beirut". # * Resolution 573: " . . . 'condemns' Israel 'vigorously' for bombing Tunisia # in attack on PLO headquarters. # * Resolution 587: " . . . 'takes note' of previous calls on Israel to withdraw # its forces from Lebanon and urges all parties to withdraw". # * Resolution 592: " . . . 'strongly deplores' the killing of Palestinian students # at Bir Zeit University by Israeli troops". # * Resolution 605: " . . . 'strongly deplores' Israel's policies and practices # denying the human rights of Palestinians. # * Resolution 607: " . . . 'calls' on Israel not to deport Palestinians and strongly # requests it to abide by the Fourth Geneva Convention. # * Resolution 608: " . . . 'deeply regrets' that Israel has defied the United Nations and deported Palestinian civilians". # * Resolution 636: " . . . 'deeply regrets' Israeli deportation of Palestinian civilians. # * Resolution 641: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's continuing deportation of Palestinians. # * Resolution 672: " . . . 'condemns' Israel for violence against Palestinians # at the Haram al-Sharif/Temple Mount. # * Resolution 673: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's refusal to cooperate with the United # Nations. # * Resolution 681: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's resumption of the deportation of # Palestinians. # * Resolution 694: " . . . 'deplores' Israel's deportation of Palestinians and # calls on it to ensure their safe and immediate return. # * Resolution 726: " . . . 'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of Palestinians. # * Resolution 799: ". . . 'strongly condemns' Israel's deportation of 413 Palestinians # and calls for their immediate return. This is indeed nice list and shows us how Israel follow what you call "legal agreements". I must admit that I am shocked! It's first time on DP that I see someone saying for member that don't agree with his fairy tales that he's a Muslim! Can you please come up with something new any time soon? Both Egypt and Jordan signed peace agreements with Israel and as far as I know noone broke those agreements so far so your claim and question that follows it simply product of your hate and bigotry against whole religion.
Yes there was. You have read it. I don't know why you keep denying this. Without this agreement, the Israeli's would have continued to beat the crap out of the massed Arab armies. This is the agreement that kept them alive. Why do you imagine that the fighting stopped? Just magically everyone called a coffee break? The difference between that agreement and all of the condemnations of Jews which the OIC has pushed through the U.N. General Assembly is that the Arab armies agreed to the conditions. Of course, they immediately backed away from their commitments -- but for a few months there they did agree to let Israel live. What on Earth are you talking about? TALK SENSE! You said you were in a war. What war were you in? Did you get to kill any Christians or Jews? What is this, rocket science? These are simple questions. I didn't even ASK if you were a Muslim? Why do you ASSUME that ONLY Muslims kill Christians and Jews? OK, I'll ask. Are you a Muslim? I don't believe that you can justify Al-taqiyya under these circumstances. Those are two examples of Arab countries -- a tiny minority. And hell, they both broke their word with the 1973 invasion of Israel. They aren't quite as innocent as you claim! Worse, they seemed to only accept peace because they were tired of losing wars to Israel.
Than show me it. UN resolution isn't peace agreement. Ceasefire isn't peace agreement. Read something before posting. And Israel would occupie few Muslims countries with like 20-30 times more Muslims than Jews?!? Sounds pretty logic to continue with war! What was they thinking! They should'ce occupie Egypt,Syria,Jordan,Lebanon,Iraq... I guess you have enormus military expirience,right? Btw the fighting stopped because of ceasefire signed on 11th june. There wasn't any peace agreement at all no matter how much your that there was. What you show is UN resolution about ceasefire and nothing more. The only commitment that I see in "peace agreement" (sorry, I have to laugh again ) you've posted is ceasefire which is just what it is: temporary stopping with military operations. War between Israel and Syria still going on if you didn't know so calling ceasefire peace agreement is simply nonsense. Btw how can anyone push anything against Israel if US can (and they often do!) use veto? So your own country is biased against Israel too? Funny how you didn't said anything about resolution 242 which has nothing to do with commending Israel. You see, you asked me one thing and when I answered how I answered you now asking what you asume: that I am Muslim. Every single time when I get into disscusions about Israel with anyone that support Israel I get that question asked or asumption made. You're the second one here on DP in last 24 hours that did that and I've argued with only 3 people! I am waiting for 3rd one to ask that too. To give you an answer: no, I am not Muslim and I can't understand why is it such hard thing for you guys to understand that there's people in the world that don't support Israel and their apartheid? Isn't there a poll few months ago about which country has worst reputation in world and in majority or world Israel is voted no 1? Don't tell me, you think there's Muslim majority in all those countries,right? Whatever you say doesn't change fact that Egypt and Jordan signed peace agreement with Israel and all 3 countries follow it so far so you claim "As the Arab nations have shown repetitively that legal agreements mean nothing to them" is simply not true.
I will try once again to make this perfectly clear. This is the "agreement" which brought the "peace" which ended the 6 Day War. You're arguing semantics in a futile attempt to support an unsupportable opinion. Hmm... let's see... who won and who lost? Oh... wait... the Jews won and everyone else lost. The Arabs agreed to the peace agreement to extricate themselves from the nightmare they had created. Ahem. I have corrected you twice now on this issue. Egypt and Jordan are the two Arab countries which have, thus far, kept their word -- this time. They didn't keep it before, but they appear to be keeping it this time because they simply don't want to lose another war to the Jews. Israel's larger number of other neighbors has not behaved similarly. Let's take this conversation in a new direction: If you were in charge, what would you do with the Jews?
YOu can believe what ever you want. That UN resolution can be even Bible if you want. What ever fits into your agenda! You still failed to show me that "agreement". All you showed is UN resolution about ceasefire. lol and you showed "peace agreement" several times now... Keep showing it! Funny how you keep trying to change the facts to justify your false statment. I'm not suprised thou. It's all about "peace agreement". lmao! I won't even answer to this question! It was just matter of time,after asuimng that I am Muslim to asume other things!
I would if Will or anyone else really wants to know the honest answer but that's not the case with him or you. Speaking about you thou...
So, all we get is a repeat of your hate filled statements, a denial of all available facts, and a refusal to answer direct questions. Sweet! I'm definitely putting you on my Christmas list next year!
Fact: there was no peace agreement after 6 day war. You failed to prove there was. If UN resolution 236 is "peace agreement" as you claim (and I have to laugh one more time on that claim ) than "peace agreement" will be also UN resolution 242 (funny how you avoided to comment that resolution. Twice! Altough I've noticed that you simply ignoring any facts that doesn't fits into your view of world) which clearly says: See word "occupied" in that sentence? That isn't fact? Is that why you simply ignored that resolution two times in this thread? Again,whole world (except some Israelis) sees those territories as occupied and only you sees it as Israeli land because of ceasefire after 6 days war! If facts that I am posting "hate filled statements" than I am one proud hater and will continue to be one. And about avoiding direct questions... Why didn't you asked me what would I do with Bhudists,Christians or Muslims? What should I would do with one religion group?!? Care to show me any of my "hate filled posts" against any religious group? You simply can't because I don't hate anyone so I would do with Jews same thing I would do with Muslims,Bhudists,Christinas etc.
Blah blah blah... All of your delusions have been cleared up and now you're just repeating yourself endlessly. You're a broken record. When you have something new to say, feel free to wow us with your brilliance. When you're ready to be honest about your final solution to the "Jewish problem", we'll be here.
Funny thing is that even Israel never ever considered Gaza and West bank as a part of their territory. They anexed East Jerusalem and Golan Heights but never did that with Gaza and West bank. But hey! Who are Israel to talk about those territories! They should come here to DP to find out which territory belongs to them! That coming from a guy that claims that ceasefire is peace agreement is hilarious! You must be a rocket scientist! Again, quote anything I've said that even sound like hate against any religion or ethnic group. You can't and after you can't back up your funny claims with facts all is left for you is labeling. Geee! I'm shocked! Never heard that one before! Lmao! Again, it's hilarious how you simply ignore any fact that doesn't fit into your view of world. Thou, should anyone at DP be suprised about that?
the solution to israeli -arab/palestanian conflict is peace are you willing to support the peace process?
Hell yes I see it. The problem is people who blame the Jews for everything and, on a pretty regular basis, attempt to murder the Jews to cover up for their own shortcomings. Every time someone sends a rocket slamming into a Jewish community, there is a problem. You may not see that as a problem, but I do.
seeing the problem and not attempting to solve it has no benefit do you have a solution? if not why don't you support peace
So blaming Muslims for everything and,on pretty regular basis,attemp to murder the Muslims to cover up their own shortcomings isn't problem? So it's not a problem when IAF bombs civilians or when your own airforce bombs civilians? You don't see a problem at all. You and people like you are the problem. Someone should collect all your posts here, make profile of your view on world issues, make profile how you see certain religion and I am 100% it wouldn't be much different than nazi philosophy not so long ago.
Hell yes I support the peace process! But I don't mean the standard "Once we kill all of the Jews, there will be peace" process. Right now, Israel and Fatah are close to making peace. Hamas is sitting this one out, which will probably make them irrelevant soon. Iran is also refusing to participate in peace negotiations. Syria will most likely refuse, but has not yet stated their position officially. Of course, peace agreements are very difficult to trust when they are made with people who believe that it is fully acceptable to lie to members of other faiths. That makes these negotiations even more difficult that usual, and the usual is very difficult. Moreover, peace is not a natural condition for dictatorships. Only Democratic peace has a history of being reliable. But, I am for peace when we can have it. Those precious moments between shells exploding are what makes life worth living.
Again, there is no Jewish problem at all. There is problem between several nations and countries. As far as I know there's more than 600 non-Jews that died fighting for Israel, their country. "Jewish problem" is term invented by Hitler and I am not suprised to see who's using it here.