What can the atheists offer the rest of the world???

I can see the highlighted points above sound very logical. You're not fighting to disprove God's existence, you only fight those who believe in Him. HUH??? Of course you will come back with another set of explanations that validates your point how both statements above do not contradict each other, but I've never seen you concede any points. Next you'll tell me that Jesus (the non existent one of course, the one I believe in) was NOT the most influential man in the history of human kind.

 

That would make prefect sense if, uhhh... I was agnostic.

There's really no need for you to be so hateful towards Deists.

You're making all Atheists look bad.

 

Do i have to explain simple concepts to you again?

Ok, An analogy worthy of crayon writing coming up.
Let's say, For instance, I believed that there were elves living in my sock draw and decided that i was going to illegally put the elves on your money, prevent your son joining the boy scouts if he didn't also believe in them, And make you swear to the elves if you held a job in office.

Would your objection to me doing that mean that the elves exist, or that you are fighting the elves? or would it mean you object to me forcing my illogical belief on everyone else against their will?

 

@Will, this is what I call an insult (see below). I seem you have no problem with your atheistic friend only with me. But that's OK. You already reminded me 2-3 times what the mod posted.

 

So who is the most influential person in the history of mankind??? I missed that part. Maybe the rubber worked wonders on the crayon. So you will have to answer it again for me.

 

What are you talking about? You make ridiculous points and then ask entirely irrelevant questions. Even if Jesus is the most influential fictional person ever what does that prove? NOTHING!

Now answer the question i asked in the previous post.

 

You haven't answered the question so let me make it easy for you. The most influential person in the history of human kind was:

a) Jesus Christ

b) Someone else

So just answer for me: a or b

 

An atheist denies the existence of God.

Because such denial is based on something not empirically provable, it is a leap of faith.

I am an atheist. It takes as much religious sensibility for me to hold this view as it does for a deist to hold his or her view.

Proteindude, I am in agreement with you that Stox's post was an insult, and not appropriate.

We'd all do well to live our lives, and believe what we believe, without being proselytes for whatever religion we adhere to.

 

proteindude:

How can you claim that when I have already posted my issues with our young e-jihadist friend?

st0x definitely does not represent the mainstream of Atheist thought.

I have no idea why he wants so much to oppress Deists - and especially Christians.

Have you read his posts in other threads? I see a permaban in his near future.

 

I don't think Atheists are about getting rid of things like religion. I think they, like many other "religions" have respect and or tolerance for other's rights to practice whatever it is they believe or do not believe in.

I've never known an Atheist to preach against what I believe.. At least none of the Atheists I know do.

 

Sorry dude, I was just hassling you a little You seem to be a little more reasonable than stOx and that is why I was surprised when you had a little go at my "offensive" comment. But just so you know I have no problem whatsoever with stOx. at least like the Bible says: better to be hot or cold not lukewarm. He is definitely NOT lukewarm.

 

According to this list (compiled by a respected historian) it is Muhammad, Isaac newton come second and jesus got bronze. So I'll have to go with B, Someone else.

Now answer my question.

 

Hang on just one second. Millions of people around the world when you ask them what year they were born in say 1952 or 1971 or whatever. Even under communism I remember in the right side of the newspaper the date as 15 February 1987. Was this year counting back referred to the date when Mohamed was born? Because this brings me back to my point which is you will not concede to anything.

I noticed you also wrote Mohamed and Isaac with capital but Jesus you started in lower case.

 

You didn't ask who's supposed birthday is the year based on, You asked who is the most influential. According to the list, Not jesus.

Notice i also wrote newton with a small "n". What could that mean? I'm sure you will find some hidden meaning.

Now answer my question.

This is how i know I'm beating you. I constantly answer every single facile question you pose and you do nothing but avoid answering mine. Why could that be do you think?

 

That guy put Plato at #40. What, are these numbers randomly assigned?

 

No they are a historians opinion based on his research.

 

What I think is this: A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still. I see you as a perfect illustration of this wise saying.

And I also see you will not concede to anyone else's view because that would mean accepting evidence that colludes with your views. So with you it's challenge the evidence not the view. Which brings me to the conclusion that it's pointles to argue with you. (Mohamed and Isaac Newton more influential than Jesus???) This is a clear sign there is no hope.

 

He needs to hit the books A LOT HARDER.

 

I thought the most influential fictional character - counting Jesus in the mix - was Harry Potter. Would probbably be funny if 2,000 years from now he was regarded as the messiah...

 

A Jewish historian done his research and concluded that Mohammad is the most influential person in history. it's you who is challenging evidence that doesn't fit in with your view. You asked me a question and i answered by referencing reliable sources.

Now you show some courtesy, some courage and some intellectual honesty and answer my question, After the fourth time of asking.