So what's happened to bidding directories?

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  1. The Pheonix

    The Pheonix Banned

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    #23
    I think bid directories will not continue to grow until folks see how google will treat some of the more recent ones.

    To me a bid directory is just a regular web directory with the option to bid for a better placement in the categories and home page. I myself was very hesitant about creating a bidding directory and resisted until I had an idea for something a little more unique than most.
     
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    choice Prominent Member

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    #24
    Well said and i would give u green but i have to spread it first

    once people realize that you treat a bid directory like a normal directory all the bitching will stop

    YOU DO NOT NEED to be on the homepage that is optional
     
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    thanks choice, I think what turns a lot of people off bidding directories is the feeling that they feel there is an element of gambling involved.

    I don't really agree with that because everything in life can be considered a gamble and if you bid for the home page and eventually 'lose' that spot you still have a higher, more visible, advantageous spot on the inside of the directory.

    The part I don't really like about bidding directories, that seems to happen with every new 'idea' that comes along, is that tons of folks jump in with exact duplicates and hope to make quick money. I would like to see everyone use at least a bit of creativity when launching a new project.
     
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    #26
    I find that the primary problem with bidding directories is not the gambling fear

    All business folk are gamblers

    rather , it is trust

    And yes, I have a few bid for position directories an am in a quandary, what to do,

    I have a developing strategy to deal with the emerging search market, yet, is a bid for position directory a suitable vehicle to include as a component of the strategy ?

    I must say that is great to read so many diferent opinions
     
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  7. SteveNO

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    #27
    :)

    I assume it can take less than one hour to setup one of these bidding directories. I assume anyone can start these directories and start scamming. This "craze" your talking about, who are they?



    Talking can do only so much. Listening is a whole new matter. "No fears or regrets" :rolleyes:

    Tell me everything in life that is considered a gamble. Just name a few.


    PS. BIDDING FOR A FRONT PAGE SPOT IS A FORM OF GAMBLING :)
     
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    What I mean by gambling is everything in life has an element of risk involved. You get married 50%+ change it will end in divorce. You drive your car to work x% chance you will die in a crash, etc...

    Allthough you might 'lose' your front page spot you still don't lose all the value of your investment because you maintain a higher rank in the category. This specific debate has entire, lengthy threads dedicated to it so I won't go further on it.
     
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    #29
    Ain't nothing happened to bidding directories - they alive and kicking.

    As it happens - UK Bidding Directory was launched just today and UK Bidding Directories launched tomorrow with a whole lot more coming as I am aware.

    A while back - I had some doubts about BDs but that's all changed now. See the vision - if you really want to be on the homepage then bid on the homepage - if you want to get listed in a directory, one that performs then bid to get into the directory.

    A couple dollars and pounds - is that such a big price to pay?

    The reason everybody is going on about bidding directories is because some, and I stress SOME - directories have big bids on them.
     
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  10. Guardian

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    This type of stuff kills me. I see all you guys sit here and continue to state how bidding directories are a waste of time and are going to be extinct or something. Here are several facts for you to look at reguardless of whether or not you appreciate a real bidding directory. There are several of us that have spent thousands of dollars promoting their bidding directory. These are the directories that will continue to be here in the future. This is no different than a regular directory, those that spend money and promote their directory will still be here in the future and those that don't will not be. Bidding directory or other wise.

    You continue to say that we bid on these directories are pr chaseres ect. However I could care less about what the pr is on a bidding directory if it sends me traffic and conversions. I have even tested your little theroy.

    I have spent several thousand dollars on regular directories, then I have turned around and spent thousands on bidding directories. What is the difference. I receive a ton of more traffic that in turn generates sales, from bidding directories. I receive more traffic from 5 top bidding directories, than I do from 50 top web directories. Bidding directories are about traffic, and ROI. I have a much higher ROI from bidding directories than I do any web directory.

    And as far as no true business would enter into a bidding war or be involved in a bidding directory, maybe you actually need to look at a few of the top sites, you will see a ton of real businesses placed on these sites just as regular web directories. Why do they do this, exposure, traffic, ROI, ect. I can go on and on and guess what I will, as I am simply sick and tired of seeing all of this bull continue to pop up.

    I own a major web directory as well as a major bidding directory, and they both will be here reguardless of what you say in the future. The long haul.
     
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    green for you

    totally agree could`nt care less about pr its traffic i want
     
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  12. The Pheonix

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    #33
    You have to support statements of FACT with evidence, could you perhaps provide us with some to support your FACTS? I'm especially interested in the 'ton of real business's' who you claim place themselves on these bidding link sellers. I'll even go the extra mile then and contact them to ask them why they felt paying to bid was the way to go, we could perhaps learn something from them. Look forward to your evidence to back up your facts. :)
     
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  14. mywebsearches

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    #34
    Hello,

    I have been reading this thread and others about this hot issue. So I would like to ask few questions for all of you. But firs let write a comment of what I think about bidding directory.

    I can see a successful bidding directory as an addition to a very popular and established site and not as a stand alone.


    Now my questions:

    What's the oldest bidding directory?

    What audience does a general bidding directory bring to advertisers?

    My opinion is that if you have directory than it is great investment in terms of traffic and not counting other factors. But for other non directory related sites than is not about traffic as it is for directory related sites. Please correct me if I'm wrong, so far I have not see real statistics or the type of audiences bidding directories have.

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    I am a little curious about what kind of traffic bidding directories provide too, I am guessing it is mostly webmaster traffic.

    When creating my own bidding directory I wanted to move away from only targeting webmaster traffic so I used the phpld bid script which offers article integration. I also wanted to give other types of business niches a shot at the front page spots so I had it customized to allow top bids per category. With those two unique spins I hope to be able to rank for a wider variety of niche keywords and provide more targeted traffic.
     
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  16. Guardian

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    Why would I go and do your research for you. Take some time yourself, and actually look at some of the sites listed on a few of the major bidding directories. And why would anyone want another kid contacting them asking questions about their marketing strategy. I stated reasons for myself using them and yet you still seem to say how I wasted my time and money and how I could have done so much better spending thousands on other resources. The fact remains, if you actually take the time to do research on bidding directories, you will see that not only do they provide a revelant backlink just as any other web directory on the market, they also provide real traffic which in turn provides real ROI. That fact alone is why anyone would want to place their link on any real quality bidding directory.

    I do agree with several on here though. Bidding directories are like any other directory or business. There are real people that provide a real quality service and which really promotes their sites in order, for not only themselves to be successful, but also their clients which are listed on their site to be successful. And then there are those that simply are trying to make a quick buck. But like I said you will find this in any business not just bidding directories.

    And I will continue to disagree with anyone that continues to say how big a waste of money it is to be placed on a bidding directory. It is no different than any other directory except it gives you the opportunity to receive higher traffic by placing a higher bid, but only if you chose to do so, regular directories do not give this option. Even if you chose to place the min bid and leave it at that, on a site that is promoted, whether it be a web directory or bidding directory, you receive a quality backlink period. How can I prove this, take a site that is listed on several regular web directories and also listed on several bidding directories. Do a search for yourself, by using the link:www.sitename.com in yahoo, as google does not update their backlinks as often, and see which sites show up first. If you do you will see, the main relevant links first(sites that are directly related to the site and provide a link), then you will see bidding directory links, and web directory links.
     
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    #37
    EDIT not worth the long story, but can i ask a question pheonix, you write in another post a person should supply all details to when supplying services, based on that thinking why wont you supply your directories to have some credit when it comes to advising directory owners ?
     
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    Wasn’t Mikey was trying to sell his only a few weeks back?

    Thanks Brian
     
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  19. The Pheonix

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    #39
    lmao; diversionary tactics or what! :D I don't want to post my own personal directories here, for several reasons and I'll tell you why.

    a. They are new directories in niches' with little or no competition, I have no intetion of posting them here as there would be a million and one wannabe's who would copy my ideas and that would devalue mine. It's called business common sense. Never let the enemy (and all competition is regarded as that metophorically speaking) know what you are doing. Hope that's clear enough for you. (Now that's good advice for you. ;))

    Back to Guardian; I never asked anyone to do any research for me? READ MY POSTS. I asked anyone who makes bold statements claiming them to be fact should be prepared to back this up with EVIDENCE of this FACT. you've failed to do this and come back with no evidence to support your case therefore you have no case. I rest my case. Lot's of cases there. :D

    Keynote: Never call anything a FACT unless you can SUPPORT that FACT. ;)
     
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    LOL your the funniest dood on this forum at times, you try and tell us your the fred astaire of the directory world but when it comes to dancing, you leave your shoes at home in the cuboard, and the best we can get is a wobble on stage. :)
     
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