Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore win the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize

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  1. guerilla

    guerilla Notable Member

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    #21
    Al Gore is CFR scum.
     
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  2. TechEvangelist

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    #22
    It's not a matter of whether or not global warming is happening. The argument is over how much humans are contributing to it.

    There are plenty of top scientists who disagree with Al Gore's fantasy, worst-case scenario, world-is-coming-to-an-end viewpoint, but their viewpoints are being stifled. Plus, when they raise a significant opposing viewpoint, funding is being pulled from their projects. This whole issue is being manipulated. Follow the money.

    While Al Bore does make some good points and we all need to conserve energy and find alternative sources, much of what Al Gore proclaims to be facts are twisted views of reality that have been proven to be false by leading scientists and climatologists.

    The sun is currently putting out more energy than has ever been recorded, but that is not even mentioned.

    The Snows of Kilimanjaro have been receding for 150 years, which was since the end of the Little Ice Age, an exceptionally cold period that ended in the mid 1850s. Al Gore leads you to believe that this is a recent event.

    There is absolutely no evidence to support the proclaimed fact that so many species will perish with global warming. Most species are more likely to benefit from it.

    The global warming model also predicts that the polar regions will become more temperate, while equatorial regions will remain stable. This means that the drivers for most of the Earth's major storm systems will diminish, not increase. Al Bore's dire predictions about increasing storm activity have not occured for good reason.

    Read Fred Singer's book called "Unstoppable Global Warming Every 1500 years." He provides hundreds of details from studies and research around the world that refute Al Gore's viewpoint. He also shows how this is a naturally occuring event. No one know why, but there is a long history of proof. All long-term climate patterns are cyclical. Scientists still cannot explain why the planet is plunged into a major ice age every 100,000 years. We are only 10,000 years from the last major ice age.

    The best part of the Nobel Peace Prize award to Gore is that he shares it with 2,000 scientists. I'm sure how they will split the award, but it sounds like he may not get much money.
     
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  3. antman

    antman Well-Known Member

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    #23
    How many billions of years old is the Earth? How long have we actually been keeping track of weather? 150 years at best?
    How much has the temp. changed in the last 20 years? Like 1degree?

    First of all, it is worth bearing in mind that any data on global temperatures before about 150 years ago is an estimate, a reconstruction based on second-hand evidence such as ice cores and isotopic ratios. The evidence becomes sparser the further back we look, and its interpretation often involves a set of assumptions. In other words, a fair amount of guesswork.

    It is certainly true that Earth has experienced some extremes that were warmer than today, as well as much colder periods. In some cases the main factors that caused these past warm periods – and the ebb and flow of ice ages over recent millennia – are well understood, though not in all. Many of the details remain unknown. The spread of ice produces further cooling by reflecting more of the Sun's energy back into space. But ice on land blocks the chemical weathering of rocks that removes CO2 from the atmosphere, which leads to warming as levels rise.

    Snowball Earth may have been possible only because the continents were clustered on the equator, meaning CO2 removal would have continued even as ice sheets spread from the poles. Only when most of the land was covered would greenhouse gases have started to build up to levels is high enough to overcome the cooling effects of the extensive ice cover.


    If the global warming thing was presented rationally and less 'in your face' style, then maybe I'd listen. Al Gore flies around the globe in his private jet promoting a movie and ideas that basically say we should all be riding bikes to fight global warming. Meanwhile, his electricity bills are 20times higher than the normal person.

    It's a problem that no-one is doing anything about. That's why Gore made his presentation into a movie. That's why the media is making it a big deal. That's why it is in your face. It IS a PROBLEM and it NEEDS TO BE IN YOUR FACE so we are all AWARE of it. And why is everyone critizing Gore for his electricity and jet? At least HE IS DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT and it's people who just call him a hypocrite that should really consider what they are doing. It's usually the last argument that people pull on me because they have nothing else to say - "Oh, Gore has a private jet - why should I listen to him?" Oh come on. As a collective global effort, we as citizens now have more influence on the government than before. If you believe that tens of thousands of scientists are colluding in a massive conspiracy, nothing anyone can say is likely to dissuade you.


    I still remember this shit as a kid, this environmental insanity. I used to lay awake at night worried that the world was ending. They beat this shit into kids brains and it has a terrible effect on them. I will never ever forgive these militant enviro-wackos for doing this to me as a child.

    Okay, I'm not going to argue your own beliefs. But whatever happens in 10/20/50 years, remember that here and now, you chose to ignore it.
     
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  4. antman

    antman Well-Known Member

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    #24
    By the way, this "claim" was a smear tactic by a neocon political group who don't support him at all. Pulling the final straws, things like this are trying to pull him down.

    And he also purchases carbon offsets for his electricity as well as his air travel and has solar powered outlets.

    Edit: Pobody's Nerfect ;)
     
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  5. TechEvangelist

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    #25
    Al Gore's hypocritical energy consumption may be labeled as a smear tactic, but it is nonetheless factual. If he really wanted to conserve energy, he would build a truly energy efficient palace that didn't consume any energy from the carbon based energy grid. It is possible to do that, but it is expensive.

    He purchases his carbon offsets from a company that he owns. By the way, how does a carbon offset in any way diminish the amount of energy he consumes or reduce the amount of greenhouse gas emmissions in the USA? It's just another smoke-and-mirrors scam to hide his hypocracy.
     
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  6. lorien1973

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    #26
    uh al gore's film? it's chock full of lies, exagerrations, etc. Here are some of them that a court ruled against:

     
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    #27
    LMAO!!!! :D
     
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    #28
    Wow, it seems they give Nobel prizes to anyone these days.......:rolleyes:

    Man made global warming is a bunch of BS..
     
    tesla, Oct 12, 2007 IP
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  9. TechEvangelist

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    #29
    What court did this take place in? What was the issue that dragged "the savior of the world" into court? I have not heard of this one.
     
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  10. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #30
    The UK wanted to make the film mandatory for all students in schools. Parents protested saying the film was biased.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...ews.html?in_article_id=485336&in_page_id=1811

    What's worse is that we've already had posters in this thread not caring that the film has been ruled biased (in a court of law, at least) and still think it's okay to show.

    Imagine, if we change the topic from 'global warming' to 'creationism' . And the court ruled the same way. Would we have these same people saying "yeah teach creationism in schools anyways. honesty be damned!"
     
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    #31
    This article does not source the "rulings" from the judge nor does the NewsBusters article in the very 1st post.
     
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  12. proteindude

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    #32
    Man made global warming myth is the start of a new form of communism, which has as its ultimate goal taking power from the rich nations and giving it to the poor ones.
     
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  13. TechEvangelist

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    #33
    The Brits appear to have more common sense than we do here in the USA. At least they are challenging Gore's propaganda tactics, while here the schools are eagerly using it to indoctrinate mushy little minds.
     
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    #34
    I am just wondering why the media ignores a convenient hypocrite such as Al Gore. His electricity bill is 10 times more than the average household, he jetsets around the world in fuel guzzling planes and no one seemt to care.

    Imagine if a republican did that. Which show once again who is in control of the media.
     
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  15. Will.Spencer

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    #35
    Yes, Al Gore has contributed a lot of HOT AIR to the environment. :)

    But think of the positive side? What does this tell us?

    What it tells me is that ANYONE can write a lousy book of fiction and win a Nobel Peace Prize.

    That's pretty sweet, if you ask me! How much money comes with this prize?
     
    Will.Spencer, Oct 13, 2007 IP
  16. Domino

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    #36
    I agree with the one who said that if Yasser Arafat received the prize....anyone can receive it...
     
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    #37
    True.

    Arafat received the "Peace" prize for murdering fewer people in his old age than he had in his younger years.

    He wasn't getting nicer, he was just slowing down due to poor health!

    Who votes for these things?
     
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  18. KeithCash

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    #38
    Tech;

    You are right on the money on this one. I could not described any better.

    1,500,000 / 2001 equal $$749.63

    Cheers
     
    KeithCash, Oct 14, 2007 IP
  19. noppid

    noppid gunnin' for the quota

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    #39
    I heard a good joke on SNL last night.

    Al Gore received a Nobel Peace Prize. George Bush immediately had the Supreme Court take it from Al Gore and Award it to him.
     
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    #40
    This is why I put my children in Private school:eek:
     
    KeithCash, Oct 14, 2007 IP