gemini, you should read this post for some good tips. A number of "Americans" use this one here, but the one above might be more conducive for your goals. Either way, if one doesn't like America and their only goal is to tear it down, there's some really good tips in those two. Hope this helps
I am not muslim. Real patriots oppose mass-murder. I hope you take the time to read every word, and... ...are able to fully understand the meaning. "Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. ...Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." -Hermann Göring (A Nazi and true expert on phony patriotism) ~~ ~70% of Americans want the war to end, and / or admit it was a mistake.
90% of Americans do not want defeat. 96% of Americans don't support ron paul. Anyone can pull stats out of their hind quarters. The difference between you and I is, I'll be held accountable. If you want to honor nazi's by quoting them, you are welcome to. It would appear many rp supporters (troofers) are joining new forces. No surprise there.
90% of me says "Have a nice life, I wish you the best" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ps. Are you able to read (and re-read) The exact quote (from yourself) which I last quoted My entire reply (word for word), and Your reply, then... After reading it all (at least twice more) Are you actually able to claim you "dealt with this debate" in an honest and fair manner"? Are you having a rough day?, or... Is this exchange typical of your standard efforts? What is your own self-assessment?
Then that begs the question; why do so many of you liberals/loons want to roll over for bin laden or other terrorists that have caused some of the worst acts of 'mass-murder' in recent history on totally innocent people, when your supposedly against 'mass-murder'? And when we talk 'mass murder', i'm not interested in the mass-murder of terrorists
Are all Iraqis terrorists? I'm not a liberal, I'm a conservative. Traditionally, conservative parties have been the ones that oppose war, and it's the liberals who think we should galavant around the world, looking for people to save and regimes to change. Unfortunately, both Britain and the US have been usurped by NeoCons, who don't even pay much more than lip service to the liberal ideals of freedom, but instead use the war as markets for profiteering and agendas of regime change. Again, America defeated the British Empire. We defeated the Imperial Japanese. We stared down the USSR. We helped turn the tide in Europe during WWII. We're worried about some guy running around the hills of NW Pakistan in a bathrobe? Give me a frickin break.
We don't mass-murder civilians so obviously i'm talking about terrorists dude, i also know terrorists are people too, but i won't cry about it It's not just one man the US/UK are targeting it's an whole lot of people who think the same as that guy & do the same (where possible), these are the people some DP'ers sympathize with but at the same time they claim they are against mass murder, whilst basically supporting mass-murders done by terrorists by claiming their innocence, whilst making false allegations to portray the government in a bad light more or less saying they go around carpet bombing villages or something
I'm not a liberal/loon, I'm an Independent Saddam hated Bin Laden Iraq didn't attack us We invaded Iraq The invasion of Iraq included horrific mass-murder of innocent people Real patriots oppose mass-murder Did I answer your question?
Your quote clearly linked Bin Laden to the Iraqi issues (the thread topic) That is Neo-Con BS Iraq did not attack us We invaded them Exactly what part did I not answer?
That's not an answer. Are all Iraqis terrorists? Yes or no? Do you believe that there is a legitimate resistance movement in Iraq against foreign occupation? And do you believe that the Iraqi people have the right to organize a resistance movement?