Politicians use fear to justify wars, Ron Paul says

Its the oldest trick in the book. Anyone with a degree in history knows that empires have used fears to justify wars from the roman times until now and even before that. How do u think hitler and stalin came to power, through fear and control of the propaganda machine that they controlled. No empire in the history of man has been shown to change this method yet. When they do we will finally achieve world peace by bringing our species to the next level.

 

That is why having a media not controlled by government is a great thing, even if the media is biased to one side like it is in the States, at least someone can create a business that is biased either way without having the government control the news. Can't say much for other countries with their "unbiased" government controlled media. That would suck to put it simply.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpXn1SfGp6M

 

Thanks buddy.

I'll take a looky at that later on.

The guy has a twice weekly radio show every week here in the UK on TalkSport too, I listen to it every week, 3 hours per show and it is all archived for later viewing too here.

I do not agree with everything he says (for example he believes the original story on 9/11, which I find utterly astonishing ) but he's pretty damn accurate on other things, especially the Middle East.

I was on his show a few months ago albeit briefly asking him if he thought that the capture of them Navy peeps was a form of false flag to push George Bush and his insane agenda out there, he disagreed with me but admitted that it was brought on by the illegal occupation of a Middle Eastern country.

 

Gtech you only posted one time here in the thread.. Come on call your boys and the Zionist Devilchick. It's time for you to strike back, and stand up for Bush!!!

 

I believe that the original story on 9/11 is an accurate one. I am usually very sceptical about everything but not to point to buy into conspiracy theories.
I believe that OBL was responsible for 9/11.

 

OBL is responsible for 9/11, but guess who made OBL? They call him Bush these days... It's all fabricated so America can start the war on terror.

 

Incorrect. islam made obl.

Myths are countered with facts.

 

Or is that "Myths are countered by GTech posting a link to one of his crappy DP posts."

I still think your WMD post with all them quotes will go down in DP P&R folklore history.

 

America is ready for a man with integrity!

or

Is America ready for a man with integrity??



http://www.ronpaul2008.com

 

wow.. pretty ground breaking stuff there

 

Do you have any ideas how the topic might apply to Iran and their over 70 million innocent people?

 

The media is owned by the corporations. The corporations control the banks. The banks control the money. There is no longer a "free press". Instead of direct governmental influence (although this exists, just google pentagon journalism training), we have corporate control. And we can't elect or fire those guys.

Iran is a democracy. They have members of different beliefs in their government. In 2004, they asked the US to normalize relations so they could avoid war. The US didn't take them up on the offer. The UN has no evidence that Iran has a nuclear weapons program. The Supreme Leader of Iran, the Ayatollah Khameini has issued a fatwa against Nuclear proliferation, and Iran denounced North Korea for developing weapons of mass destruction.

If we go into Iran, it's going to be under the guise of propaganda, just like the Gulf of Tonkin. Thousands of Americans died, and the President was never censured or impeached.

 

Among all the countries in the Middle East which the US consider allies, Iran is the closest that comes to a democracy.
Iran former President Mohammed Khatami tried hard to have better relations with the US, but his overture offers were rebuffed.
Iran even helped the US when it invaded Afghanistan in 2001 because Iran was no friend of the taliban and wanted to see them gone.

The iranian government is dying to have better relations with the US.
Unfortunately, there is a tiny country in the Middle East (with considerable influence in the US) that views Iran as a threat and is making sure that the US never gets friendly to Iran.

 

What a lot of people are missing in Ron Paul's message, and he has tried harder lately to explain it, but with 1 minute interviews and 5 total minutes of speaking time in each debate, it's not easy.

This war is going to bankrupt us the way the the Soviet empire went bankrupt. That is why Paul is for a secondary currency (gold based) as an alternative to a potential dollar collapse.

We spend a trillion dollars on foreign policy. It's money we do not have, and one day, maybe this year, maybe in 10 years, the debt will come due. Without cutting our single greatest expense (foreign policy) and getting Americans and illegal immigrants off of the entitlement system, we don't stand a chance of averting this.

It's ugly, it's unpopular, but it's truth. Every empire eventually over extends itself. The Roman Empire, The British Empire, The Ottoman Empire and the Soviet Empire. They all failed politically and economically.