Turkey considers foray into Iraq

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by ly2, Oct 9, 2007.

  1. #1
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21207379/

    Interesting. I wonder what Bush will have to say about this? Doesn't matter I guess, not a damn thing he can do about it. I always thought the Kurdish people were relatively peaceful too, you don't hear much about them killing our soldiers, if at all. They even helped us during the initial invasion.

    What's their beef with Turkey? Religion I can only assume, yea?
     
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  2. gamer

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    if US don't want operation, it will stop support terrorism, ok? we will not hesitate to kick ass of terrorists ;)
     
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  3. ly2

    ly2 Notable Member

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    What? I don't get it...
     
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  4. gamer

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    PKK is a terrorist organisation and supported by US and we will kick ass of terrorists, your soldiers give m16 rifles to terrorists.
     
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    ly2 Notable Member

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    What religion is Turkey? Shia or Sunni?
     
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    ly2 Notable Member

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  8. gamer

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    we don't care religions in my country, by the way PKK is marxist, not a religious terrorist organization.

    Also kurds are sunni or Shafi´i :rolleyes:
     
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    ly2 Notable Member

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    I'm just saying, it's all so F'ing stupid. The whole Sunni/Shia/Kurd thing.
     
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    as i said, we don't care religion, we just looking for destroy terrorists and terrorist supporters :cool:
     
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    Also i don't recommend you to trust people of middle east, just an advice.
     
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    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #12
    Religion is not the cause for just anything that happens. I might add that religions is really a cause for least problems in today world.

    Well tens of M kurds don't have a country for example and they are stretched over 3-4 countries including Turkey.

    Since you find this info interested I understand now that you don't know shit.

    Turks have "heavy equipment" on the border for years now...

    But you are just not informed. You are better at those beheading findings and all that crap. Real stuff and you look amateurish ....

    You find that info interesting .... buahahahhaha
     
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    LeoSeo Well-Known Member

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    #13
    The basis of this agenda is not related to religion, as Turks and Kurds have no such conflict. The basis is, PKK, one of the most bloody terrorist organisations, one of the top 5 suicide bombers of the world, with roots and sponsors across the EU and using the "lost" American weapons against Turkish people, using the northern iraqi region for deployment, and surprisngly the northern iraqi authorities are backing them up all they can.

    Recently they murdered 13 of our soldiers, which the western media prefer to name them "rebels, resistance" etc. instead of terrorists, when they name every non-christian with a gun such, that's the title they prefer for an organisation with 25,000 murders within Turkey in the last 30 years, charming, i shall say.

    This last event was like a last drop to a bottle. I wish US will find a better ally, as they lost 1 clearly.
     
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    #14
    Don't worry about Marxists. When Bush is done with them, everyone will be calling them Islamo-fascists. Remember, this is the same President who invaded Iraq not knowing that there were Sunnis and Shias.
     
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    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #15
    Sure turkish repression has nothing to do with this ? Turks are well known to be real angels on territories they occupied during history ;)

    Kurds ( more than 30M people ) don't have their country while on the other side 1,5M albanians will soon get the second one on Kosovo :D and Turkey is supporting them openly ... double standards and what not ... and you talk about kurds as bad and all .. em OK !
     
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    LeoSeo Well-Known Member

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    #16
    Firstly; Turks are not occuping anywhere, not since the ottoman empire, and within the occupied lands during ottoman, i hope you realise they still all keep their identity, language and religion despite the hundred years of dependence(most of the eastern europe, arabic region and north africa, who speaks Turkish? which became Muslim who were not?), check what happened when others occupied anywhere even for a couple of decades.

    Supporting independece is one thing, supporting terrorism is another, not to mention we are not politically domainant in that region no longer to actually support such a thing. Do you have any resource which shows Turkey sponsors or literally supports violance within that region? No. Besides, 2 mistakes wouldn't make 1 right even if we were, which we do not, and never will. Whoever doesn't condemn this terrorism, shows the real face, that's all.
     
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    iatbm Prominent Member

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    #17
    Well a dead man afterall cannot keep his identity, etc....you should read some books from authors with Nobel prizes about turkish gentle approach towards inhabitants of occupied lands....and some info of the people that actually experienced it ....turkish armenian and other holy turks propaganda can only work on sone turkish forum....
    Sure man I have a proof and resource...seen it with my own eyes ;)
    Don't bullshit me with nice talk since I was there okay ....

    double standards huh .... kurds in turkey are fighting for independance and they are terrorists but when albanians are fighting on kosovo killing farmers and kids they are freedom fighters ....

    ssssshhhh
     
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    Dead man.. Yea, that should mean there's nothing called Greeks, Bulgarians, Serbs, Arabs, North Africans anymore, since they were all once occupied and all died.

    You don't got nothing obviously except your assumption, Kurds are not fighting for freedom, the major politic partyamong Turkish Kurds are the party in charge and Kurdish Nationalist party receives only %3-4 vote from them when %20 of Turkish population are Kurds.

    If there will be an independent Kosovo someday, turst me it will not be because Turkey wants so, that's out of our reach at this time, you may have a problem with Albanians, i really don't care, you can make a thread about it instead of hijacking this one with irreleveant hatred.
     
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    albanians? who care them :D sorry mate, there is no reason to support them.
     
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    have no problems with turks or albanians but I have a problem with portraying kurds as a bloody sobs and those turks are suffering bla bla and I gave you an example of obvious double standards on similar situation....

    Oh and about that ally and americans you made comments in earlier post.

    It is not US who needs Turkey...it is other way around. Turkey as it is today only holds together because of western support. If they want they can light a match and the whole multi-cultural Turkey collapses....
     
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