http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/09/w...s.html?_r=2&ref=world&oref=slogin&oref=slogin Look on the bright side, they hate you for your freedoms
Personally I'm not so sure why or if the Supreme Court should even get involved in such a thing. Not that I support it or not, however a non US citizen not on US soil, how does the Supreme court have anything to do with this?
Because he wants to bring the case in the US. His alternative is to take the case before the International Courts.
I understand that, I guess my point is I just am not shocked. Even if I don't agree with it I can see why the Supreme court would choose not to even hear it. International Courts IMO would be where something like this should be taken to anyways, and or internal investigation by the US itself.
What kind of internal investigation are you suggesting? They already know that they torture the prisoners, so the only logic result of such investigation will be that they decide to kill the people that they have tortured by mistake, so it won't become a bad public relation scandal.
I'm simply suggesting I do not believe our Supreme Court is put into place for such decisions. Internal investigation to decide to stop the process, bring all facts to the table is one possibility. International court is more the place for such a case is it not?
Actually I think the Supreme Court is the right place, only government succeeded by using a loophole to get around it. Torture is illegal according to Federal laws, so if the government acts illegally then who should look at it? Isn't this the court duty? Should government be able to hide all it's criminal acts by claiming it is state secret? German prosecutors already filed charges against 13 Americans involved and that is on top of those CIA agents that have been charged by Italians? It is interesting that while USA is asking for co-operation when requesting for extradition of criminals from Europe, the government has made U.S. a safe heaven for criminals charged by European governments.
They don't want sensitive information to get out during the trial, so that's why they denied it, so I hear.
I'm not saying I agree with it, I just have a different view on the Supreme Court and the US constitution when it comes to non citizens and or outside of the country
LOL, Sensitive information about non existing secret prisons, not existing kidnapping and not existing torture of innocent people. The reason is clear, they don't want the secrets that don't exist to come out.
For one thing, they have been playing this state secrets game for a while to avoid dealing with certain issues, and not just involving foreign nationals. For another, the man claims he was abducted and tortured by people acting on behalf of the US governmet. So the question is whether George Bush can kidnap people from other countires, send them to places like Afghanistan, and have them tortured. If yes, then we have a rouge state on our hands.
The US constitution only applies to US citizens, not german citizens....the same goes for terrorists. Our constitution does not apply, nor to illegal aliens.
Bush supports the kidnapping and torture of foreign nationals because he supports freedom. Everyone knows that the best way to defend democracy and freedom is through illegal and criminal acts.